Tekkit Classic What happened to Crafting Table III?

Until it's made to not completely suck (crashes, duping, lagging, etc) and meets the level of quality for Technic/Tekkit, you'll be waiting a long time. The thing is a nightmare that does nightmarish things that gives your nightmares nightmares. It dupes nightmares. Who wants nightmares?

Nightmares.

Can you be more specific?

- It freezes/crashes only when you press R button for sorting (and that might not be entirely fault of CT3, it might be just conflict between the two mods)
- How can you dupe with it? If you mean usage of recipes where items do not get consumed (like bucket in milk recipe), "duplicated" items are only ghosts and will disappear at inventory update.
- I have never seen it causing lag

I totally agree. On my server me and my friends wanted 8 HV solar arrays (for EMC generation mwuhahaha). Without the crafting table mk3 it would have been much much harder than it was.

If there are fatal bugs then I can see the point however I do have some single player worlds using tekkit and my right click (mac pad) is much different to the average mouse. I hope this is re-added or something to make it useable in single player tekkit.

There are recorded instances of it crashing servers and clients alike. It hasn't happened to me because I steer clear of it. It's also why you don't see it in present builds.

I'm not going to tell you how to dupe with it, but it's possible and it's a problem. Not as bad as the RM furnaces, but it's bad enough.

The first time I decided to try it my client had a heart attack and my FPS dropped off quicker than kids in the pool.


I'm not saying it doesn't work for everyone, but it breaks enough to have had it removed from the mod packs, thanks to the QC of Technic.

Congratulations. You've just killed yourself of a really fun experience of making a machine to auto craft those solar arrays for you. Most of the fun in Technic/Tekkit is using the mods within to create fantastic pieces of engineering delight.

To be frank, Tekkit auto-craft systems are not at the level of intuitivness that I would think crafting table II is a bad thing. When logisitcs is available, then perhaps. But honestly a lot of the recipies are /obnoxious/ to make without something like CT3, due to whats honestly pritty poor design on individual mod auther's parts.

I would like to see it's return asap. If it's not just a compatability thing, and it has been crashing servers I could understand (and I mean actually crashing tekkit servers, (which i have never personaly seen) minor dupe bugs and minor client crashes in certain conditions can be lived with, since they're in all the other mods, and you have the ability to disable it if needbe.)

Either way, it would be nice if we could get a non confoliting message about it working or not for those of us who consider re-adding the mod to our smaller servers.

Well... It was either make a machine to craft solar arrays and make solar arrays - more resources req.
or
make solar arrays manually - faster and less resources required.

And seen as this was to get unlimited resources in the first place, which we didn't have before, we went with the second one.


IMO it would be a much better idea for tekkit to leave the crafting table mk3 in tekkit but in the server properties of the server there is a question as follows:
Crafting Table Mk3 available? - true/false

therefore people can turn it on or off as they please =) but those of us who can live with the minor bugs can still use them =)

No one here is saying they should of kept an incompatable mod Neowolf, it was people saying it was removed due to the 'minor' bugs that caused such a suggestion.

And there is /already/ the ability to make a 'no CT3' option provided by dozerns of bukkit plugins that disallow carfting of certian blocks e.t.c. so it's 0 work and already done. It's the same method everyone used to prevent EE (or EE duping). Or any other block that may have undersirable components.

Needless hostility gets people nowhere.

You know what else gets you nowhere fast? Entitlement. That desire to feel like the Technic team, modders, or whoever owes you something. Guess what, no one owes you anything.

Neo's hostility is in check here and rightly so. You're just blowing your little butt trumpet because you can't be bothered to open a normal craft table and put the parts in yourself. You need a mod in order to make your life in Minecraft just a little simpler. If I had any input at all, CT3 would never make an appearance again in Technic/Tekkit because of you and people just like you, which is a lot of people.

Be happy that you have an easy to use launcher, that there are some guys who took time out of their day to put this pack together for you to use, instead of having to click and drag zips and files into jars and folders. Your post reeks of ungratefulness and that's why you're getting hostility. It's completely justified especially since Neowolf is one of the guys who's got a mod in these packs.

If you have even a shred of dignity, you thank him and offer your butt for penetration.

You're making my job difficult Neo.

Also, if there's anything I can do to help, let me know. I'm in IRC most of the time.

I am no modder and my programming knowledge barely covers matlab... However I can come up with ideas. As OmegaJasm said people were saying 'it was removed due to the 'minor' bugs'. So I was saying 'well why not keep it in and allow people to choose whether or not they want to have the minor bugs or not?' If the bugs were game/world breaking then they wouldn't be minor and then I would never have suggested such a thing.

i.e. the only reason I suggested that idea was because people were saying the bugs were minor.

It really boils down to what the Technic guys say. Everything I say or other users is heresay and can't be a trusted source. If it isn't in, there's a darn good reason for it. It might be put in later (example: Balkons for Tekkit) or it might not be. It is determined by the team if it is a game breaking bug or not. Stuff like duping or causing a client/server crash in any sense is going to warrant it being removed. Or in this case, a flat out incompatibility with the rest of the pack.

But never fully trust or believe everything you read that isn't directly from the source.

I think its more the spirit of tekkit to make a auto maker (put in high EMC valued stuff, receive bacon), because an auto crafter is pretty stupid. I made one for LV solar arrays before I knew of CT3, and my god what a fucking waste. While I'm all for "spirit" that's just a plain waste of space and resources.

While I have never had a problem with CT3 (not once. at all. stop it beer, you've been drinking too much, your scaring the kids which your screaming about baby killer CT3) if it does have a MAJOR problem which stops it being in, I'm fine with waiting. but just announcing it with just a

• Removed Crafting Table III

and ignoring us is leaving a lot to be desired, its just bugging me so much that they wont say why its removed. Maybe it will be in the recommended build. Who knows...

Newe6000, you'll find minimal information about additions and removals are par for the course, else the team would be justifying their every move here and have to deal with a shitfest every single time. Usually some helpful person will work out compatibility if you check the forum though. I'll be trying out the plugin suggested in one of these threads on our server in a day or two myself.

See previous comment on needless hostility. I've never claimed the technic team should have to do /anything/ for me. Heck, my post was suggesting do it yourself solutions. You sure your quoting the right post?

If you're going for efficiency over fun, then yes. In which case, load up EE and you'll be efficient as all hell. You'll get bored a lot faster too. Making manufacturing machines isn't about efficiency, it's about engineering and accomplishing a goal. You know what I hate making? Circuits. I hate it so much, I started cutting every time I had to make one. Cutting cake that is. So instead I built a machine to do it. Now, I hate having to worry about resources for machines, so I just hooked up some condensers for copper, sticky resin, redstone, and iron. Bing bang boom, I had a circuit machine. Then I made it more efficient, condensed, and eventually had it just automatically create a stack of them with an auto shutoff timer once the stack finished. The next step was to incorporate it into a BASIC program using Redpower Control. But I got caught up with another project. The point is... it was fun to builld but it was far from efficient.

You know how it's removed? When you load up Tekkit and it's not there. Quickest changelog ever.

Haha... I could agree with the rest of that post if you didn't use that line to be a dick.

Your problem with crafting table 3 is that people use it and you don't? Newsflash: Your auto circuit --->>MAKER<<--- does give you an advantage over the people who use CT3. You proved what I was saying.

Ok, put out the fire, lets take a step back here and remove these sticks from up our arse. At the end of the day the only truly irremovable mods are Industrialcraft, Redpower, Buildcraft and EE. But using the "I'M GLAD ITS GONE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT" as an answer to a question about a mod removal is stupid.

Do you know what I hate? bluetricity. Its fucking pointless, hardly used and to generate any power for it you have to waste 3 or 4 blocks for solar panels. Bluetricity is one too many power types, I can stand Buildcraft having its own power type as that's needed for its function, plus thanks to Tekkit team a mod to port power between IC and Buildcraft is in so its not a problem. But bluetricity is fucking annoying and is pretty much required if you want to do anything advanced using Redpower.

If tomorrow the Redpower maker said "KTHXBAI Bluetricity suck my fucking diiiick!" I would be happy. But others wont. Their are people out there who would be really angry, and would have every right to be. My point is beer, you have no fucking right to bitch slap people for wanting answers after something you hate is removed, your opinion is your own worthless opinion, like my opinion is my own worthless opinion. Stop being a dick on this thread, people have a right to be annoyed. Let them cool off, don't fan the flames!

My problem with the CT3 is that it's buggy. I don't use it because I don't like using buggy mods. I used to use CT2 until, you guessed it, it started glitching out on me. It's why I was hesitant to use CT3 and for good reason, because it caused me abnormally large amounts of lag on a tekkit server. If you bothered to read any post in this thread, you would know why I'm not a fan of it. Not simply because I don't use it.

Blutricity is relatively new to the redpower mod overall. You will start to see more and more uses for it and I suspect it will be required to power redpower control items as that part of the mod progresses. Has no bearing on who uses it and who doesn't as it's required to power things like retrievers (essential to mods)

The clear point of that last bit in my previous post was you're not owed anything, including a changelog. If you want to know what's changed, play it. Not terribly difficult considering the whole point of this pack is to play it.

You decided to get all riled up over nothing. Way to go champ.

You do owe something to the people who use and/or promote your mod. And it isn't a "suck it" attitude.


You owe them any and all of your success.

Because all of that talent and hard work means nothing if nobody hears about it, or gets to have fun.