Amaxter Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've been using my aging iMac for some time and it's beginning to only be able to run games at medium in some cases, and the graphics card is pretty shitty (An AMD 6970m), so I'm thinking it's time for a native Windows gaming PC. I'm looking for a beast at a budget around $2,500 and no i'm not building it myself. So a pre-built PC around $2500, preferably one with a GTX Titan or 780 Ti. Also a Mini ITX case as I want to be able to carry it around sometimes. Any suggestions? Unehydrodyday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconsented Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 http://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/fragbox Unehydrodyday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniboxer Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 http://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/fragbox Holy fuck those are overpiced. OP: Why don't you want to build it yourself? Takes about an hour and is much much cheaper than any prebuilt you could get with similar specs. EDIT: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2HuR4 2500$ build. i7 4770 with 2x 780 Ti. 8 GB of RAM, 1 TB harddrive, huge, roomy case, great motherboard. This will crush anything you throw at it. This will crush anything you throw at it for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Holy fuck those are overpiced. OP: Why don't you want to build it yourself? Takes about an hour and is much much cheaper than any prebuilt you could get with similar specs. EDIT: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2HuR4 2500$ build. i7 4770 with 2x 780 Ti. 8 GB of RAM, 1 TB harddrive, huge, roomy case, great motherboard. This will crush anything you throw at it. This will crush anything you throw at it for years to come. Ew, conventional hard drive. I don't need much storage, so I think just 2 256 GB Samsung Evo 840 SSD's, and also I want 16 GB of RAM, and mini ITX, I don't need SLI. And I'm not a good builder, never built a PC and don't want to risk $2500 on something I might break trying to build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconsented Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It is really easy to build, the only pre requisite is knowing how to use a screwdriver. It is literally plug cord a into slot b these day's. Don't know why you want 16Gb of ram, the only applications you need it for are things like CAD and Ram disk which require much higher amounts anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Munaus Posted January 26, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2014 i7 processor, 500 or 1tera of harddrive with 8gig of RAM coupled with the best graphics card money can buy is all you need for a good gaming tower. RAM is overpriced nowadays and 16gig is a bit overkill even with the highest-demand graphical games out there. And personal opinion: SSD is useless. 1 harddrive is enough I ordered a custom pre-built tower which only cost me 1800+$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Reason I want 16 GB is because I would like to run servers from time to time for my friends and i to play on. Also I want an SSD as I don't need too much storage and want faster boot times. This isn't purely a gaming PC, but once that i want to be able to use for a while as my main computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniboxer Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Ew, conventional hard drive. I don't need much storage, so I think just 2 256 GB Samsung Evo 840 SSD's, and also I want 16 GB of RAM, and mini ITX, I don't need SLI. And I'm not a good builder, never built a PC and don't want to risk $2500 on something I might break trying to build. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2HId0 There. Cheaper than before too, without the bigger case and second 780 Ti. Building is extremely easy. You would have to be trying to break things as long as you are careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconsented Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2HERQ There. Cheaper than before too, without the bigger case and second 780 Ti. Building is extremely easy. You would have to be trying to break things as long as you are careful. 1) Why no K? 2) Why such a large SSD? 3) Why W7? 4) Why such an overkill PSU? (you have around double the recommended wattage for that setup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniboxer Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 1) Why no K? Because it isn't an overclock ready motherboard. 2) Why such a large SSD? SSD is taking the place of a 1TB 7200 RPM hard drive. 3) Why W7? Because I don't like windows 8. It was more just included to show the difference in price. 4) Why such an overkill PSU? (you have around double the recommended wattage for that setup) That's an artifact of the previous 780 ti build. Link now updated: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2HId0 also fixed in previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Hmm,, I think that's good. I'd use windows 8, and an over clock ready motherboard and 4770k as well as a bitfenix prodigy for the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Ok, so I did some work on PC Part Picker and this is the result: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/LzH Think a beginner like me could build that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethosos Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I have good news about Win 8, at the least. Apparently MS actually listened to the consumers, and is working on "Threshold", an update that could very well be Win 9 in essence. The primary change is reintroducing the Aero theme from Win 7 as a choice over the Tablet theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't mind the tablet theme too much, but maybe that's I've been conditioned for it growing up using Mac and iOS. As for peformance, I know Windows 8 loads up faster but I heard it's harder to overclock components with. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocken926 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 1 TotalBiscuit worth of SSD? Why not do 1 TB HDD and a smaller SSD for games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 1 TotalBiscuit worth of SSD? Why not do 1 TB HDD and a smaller SSD for games? Because why do I need to waste money on a conventional HDD when I can have a SSD for a zippy OS and fast booting games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocken926 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Because why do I need to waste money on a conventional HDD when I can have a SSD for a zippy OS and fast booting games? OS and good games goes on the SSD, other stuff goes on the HDD. You'll save money that way, and HDDs have lower failure rates than SSDs, so less chance of you losing your data (Movies documents, save file backups etc.). Mostly it's about the money, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 OS and good games goes on the SSD, other stuff goes on the HDD. You'll save money that way, and HDDs have lower failure rates than SSDs, so less chance of you losing your data (Movies documents, save file backups etc.). Mostly it's about the money, though. Yeah but I can add an HDD later if I need it, I don't need much a storage so an SSD isn't much more expensive. Same thing with an optical drive, don't need one so not getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconsented Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 OS and good games goes on the SSD, other stuff goes on the HDD. You'll save money that way, and HDDs have lower failure rates than SSDs, so less chance of you losing your data (Movies documents, save file backups etc.). Mostly it's about the money, though. Actually that has changed, SSD at the moment last for roughly 25% longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 I've heard building in Mini ITX cases, particularly the bitfenix prodigy can be tricky for a beginner? Is this true? http://pcpartpicker.com/b/LzH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniboxer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I've heard building in Mini ITX cases, particularly the bitfenix prodigy can be tricky for a beginner? Is this true? http://pcpartpicker.com/b/LzH Not necessarily harder, just a bit more irritating. In a cramped space it can be a bit difficult to work with cable management and other things like that. I would reccomend going for a fully modular power supply, as shown here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ibbi RAM was also tweaked, as corsair vengeance stuff is a little bit overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaxter Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Not necessarily harder, just a bit more irritating. In a cramped space it can be a bit difficult to work with cable management and other things like that. I would reccomend going for a fully modular power supply, as shown here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ibbi RAM was also tweaked, as corsair vengeance stuff is a little bit overpriced. Awesome, also I've heard that RAID 0 is faster than one SSD if you have two identical ones, how do I set that up? Also do i need an optical drive to install Windows 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowulf Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Awesome, also I've heard that RAID 0 is faster than one SSD if you have two identical ones, how do I set that up? Also do i need an optical drive to install Windows 8? Bulk transfer yes, read/write oh hell no. RAID 0 is striping, which means you send half the data to one drive and half to the other, writing to the same spot on the disk at the same time with even bits going to one drive and odd to the other. It doubles the transfer speed you can get out of a logical drive. Unfortunately you still have seek time, which on a SSD is 0ms vs whatever your drives are rated at. If you have a lot of smaller files to transfer, an SSD will fly circles around the best HDD. I have an SSD in my work laptop, 5 year old dell running win7. It boots in less than 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torezu Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I can think of several reasons to get an optical drive. 1) Incredibly cheap (think $25 or less) DVD viewing/burning. 2) Many games/programs are still not conveniently available online (or enormous to download), or sometimes you just want hard copy backups of software. The online unavailability thing is getting much less common, though. 3) Backup/system restore discs. Again, getting less critical, but still nice to have in case something goes terribly wrong and you can't get internet access. This isn't as important if you have another computer/device to pull driver files and other stuff with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowulf Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Optical drives don't have to be internal. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135256 I've got a similar one that has proven a godsend for those stupid netbooks that are too small for a drive and need the OS wiped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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