MaskotJordan

"Gibbering on about things you don't know anything about." I know a lot about macs and how they work, I'm trying to tell people what's wrong, why it isn't working, and why what they think is wrong is incorrect. Why are you even here anyways? Why did you come here, you have no factual evidence of any sort to anything you have presented.

So if the Windows version was not working properly, you wouldn't expect them to fix it? You did not offer to help, you said it was not our issue, we didn't write it, and told us to just wait and quit *****ing. Telling the OP to go find a working version of Java, that's useless advice.

I don't have the years of experience the Devs do, I don't know any code, but I do know people who do, and they know how to make programs, if you take a good look at the Technic Launcher, it's not that complicated, it gives you a selection screen on the left and the core of the regular minecraft launcher to the right along with some nice artwork and a loop of gifs for the modders. Now you're going to say it's much more than that, you don't know what you're talking about. The program is already written, all the Devs need to do now is push a new version of the modpacks for 1.3.2

Again, why didn't you read the entire thread before posting a meaningless response.

I'm being inconsiderate and rude? You just jumped into this thread with nothing, no advice, just ann unthought out response that nobody needed. Why don't you take the time to read the entire thread before posting a useless comment like that, what would you do if suddenly your technic launcher wasn't working properly and you knew what was wrong, but no one could understand why, you'd start bitching and whining about it like an immature child. At least I took the time to find facts and truths and searched around for a possible fix, all leading to dead ends.

You must be retarded. You are correct in this fact. Does this mean mac users will have to wait until a new version of tekkit using minecraft 1.3 comes out?

Once I hit Login on the Technic Launcher, another screen appears and then quickly disappears, this is the launchers fault, it does not start the Mojang loading screen.

saintnicster, the java update is completely different from the Java Applet Plugin, Apple automatically updates Java, the Java Applet Plugin controls which Java Version you use, before the update to Java 7, there was the option to use the Java Applet Plugin to change from Java 6 to Java 7 JDK, but the JDK version has progressed into the full Java 7 version that was released yesterday, the applet was also taken away in the update so now there is no way to change the Java version because you cannot have both Java 6 and Java 7 installed on the mac at the same time and the Java Applet Plugin has been removed. I am running OSX Lion 10.7.5 I can tell that you are running OSX Snow Leopard, if you read the Java website, you'd see that OSX Lion 10.7.3 was updated to Java 7, and by the way, I laughed when you went into System Preferences to find something in the Utilities folder. As you can see, I am running Java 7.

saintnucster, that fix would work perfectly if Apple didn't remove the Java Applet Plugin that allowed you to change it. Edit- You should have known that by the post you made previously about Apple removing it two days ago.

This is demonstrably false. Any sane business owner (the pack is not a business and has no customers but I'll run with it) would never devote the same amount of time when the system has a much smaller user base. It is basic economics, resources (in this case time and patients) are scarce. The best way to allocate said resources is to focus on the Launcher used by the majority of the userbase. If you cater to every single customer, you will overextend yourself and in most cases your business will fail. The Devs of the Technic Launcher and modpack have to make 3 programs and make sure they work properly, this is not too hard of a task for people as technically educated as the Devs are. You are putting words into my mouth. Mac users are no less important than PC users, however they make up a smaller portion of the user base, and thus are "less important" from a resource allocation perspective. Also, I never "agreed" with you that barely any resources go into the launcher. I am not a dev but I would assume the Technic devs put many hours of their own free time to create the Pack and Launcher. They did not purposely "break" the launcher so that Mac users couldn't use it. I know they did not break it, but they also have not done anything to fix it. Windows has been running on Java 7 for a long time. They have already gotten up to update 9 for Java 7. Clearly the different OS' use different numbering systems. Java 7 for Windows is not the same as Java 7 for OSX. The Java update for OSX is Java 7 update 9, Java released it for windows, mac, linux, and solaris. Java does not use numbers, it uses text coding that is interpreted the same. That is why most java applications run the same on both windows and mac Operating Systems. The only difference between the two is that they need to run on different OS platforms. But the Java coding system is exactly the same.

If you had read the other two posts, you would have seen that I was correct, and your information was false, I never use apple.com for any other companies programs, I go to the companies website. Also, Saintniccter showed no real proof except for one update from Apple.com that removed the Mac Applet that allowed you to change which Java application you wanted to use (Java 6 or Java 7 JDK at the time) but since Java 7 is the new standard, they removed that option. And when you say "Not our issue." I would like to inform you that it is directly your issue to serve your "customers" as a business owner would refer to them. You basically said that mac users are not as important as windows users, you have no right to say that, they are just as important, and in saying that you agree with me that barely any of the resources go into developing the mac launcher.

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_6.xml At the bottom, you can see that it says: Apple Java 6 for Mac OS X For Java versions 6 and below, Apple supplies their own version of Java. For Mac OS X 10.6 and below, use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java 6 for your Mac. For issues related to Apple Java 6 on Mac, contact Apple Support. OSX does not allow any backward installations of Apple supplied programs and when you update to Java 7, it automatically deletes the Java 6 files when you restart the computer.

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp#mac As you can see from Java's website, they do not offer Java 6 for Mac anymore. Mac now runs only on Java 7.

Okay Mr. Dictator, you obviously do not have the aptitude to understand my sentences. Let me simplify it for you, I know the Launcher runs on Java 7, when you log on to play Tekkit, the actually minecraft launcher crashes because it runs on Java 6. You are wrong, you don't own a mac, you know nothing about the recent updates of OSX, which updated last night to fully integrate Java 7 and get rid of Java 6. That is the problem, I know the Developers work hard, but how much of that work goes into proper development of a solid mac application, maybe 25% of the work they do is on the mac. Don't go telling me, "Not too many people own a mac, so they're not as important as window users." Any self respecting business owner knows that every single customer is important, not just the main market. In my first sentence, I was trying to say the I knew what was wrong, and I knew what had to be done to fix it. I myself do not have the proper skills and access to do it. The Developers should have seen this coming as windows updated to Java 7, so inevitably OSX would have done the same. They should have made a launcher that runs the minecraft launcher portion in Java 7 and held it until OSX updated to Java 7 so that this inconvenience would not have occurred. But instead, the Developers ignored this fact, and will have to rush to fix this problem. This is a big inconvenience for me if I do not have access to it 24/7, I pay about $100 out of pocket every month to run my dedicated 10GB server 24/7. Due to every admin I've had to deal with on this forum, I will simply stop donating to the Developers of the Technic Launcher and Technics website.

I KNOW THE PROBLEM AND THE SOLUTION, but I cannot fix it as I do not know how. The Technic Launcher on OSX runs on Java 6, OSX updated to Java 7, but the Technic Launcher still runs off of Java 6, Java 6 no longer exists on Mac. So I'm sure you see the problem, the Technic Launcher needs to update to Java 7, it should have done this a long time ago and waited until Java 7 for Mac was released, but instead, the Developers waited, and now we must wait, this is a VERY big inconvience for me as I cannot play on my Tekkit Server until this is fixed, and knowing the Developers of Technic, this will take a week or so.