well i've tried to disable norton and malewarebyte and i have it to "allow" on both programs now (the entire .technic folder for maleware and both launchers .jar .exe for norton) and nothing, removed both and still nothing, also does anyone know why when i delete the last login file it kind of connects? and no i only have the 2 i had 3 but the 3rd didnt do much i uninstalled that first. i did see someone say to go in a folder in the .technic and add a line or two of text but i'm not good with that stuff so i didn't try that... 95% of the forums i found just said to get rid of the antivirus and not much else, no one says anything to do if that doesnt work... also my friend also has norton 360 and has experienced no problems at all with technic.... anyone know why? also sorry for the late reply, been very busy