Hai, Thanx for helping, This is a tough task and I really need someone to fix it for me by saying which mods I should get by what I mean is fixing the problems because It is possible for me to fix them but the reason I was talking about the problem on this thread is because I can't create a world with forge on normal Minecraft, it just freezes and I need someone to see the solutions clearly and tell me what to do to fix them. Plus, I never had a problem with Optifine; my modpack does work you know .. it loads perfectly it just shuts down automatically when I am in the world, optifine does work; all mods probably work but something is just making it crash and I asm not hear to get some weak advice because this is the biggest mod pack I have ever created and I wish it would work but there is something out there that is shutting down each world that I create. Crash reports are okay, It just found Mutant Creatures mod an error so I removed that, all mods loaded properly but the problem still occurs so that means that the crash reports won't help either I guess ;L Please see what's up as soon as possible! Thank you for the help!