TheCyberTronn's Pictures!

[TheCyberTronn]

Being inspired by CheapShot's Yogscast pictures, I decided to create my own!

This one I made for my Youtube Channel picture! (Shameless Plug: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCyberTronn)

Let me know what you think and don't worry, there should be more on the way in the future!

Just to let you all know, I didn't use Photoshop because it's quite expensive for a 13-year-old and I don't see it as a good investment just yet, so I'm just using Gimp 2.8.

[Cheap Shot]

Please keep it up! I think you have a lot of potential and I like what you've got so far.

[TheCyberTronn]

Thanks Cheap! I've got some technical problems at the moment so I will try to get some ASAP. You've made my day!

[Cheap Shot]

You're also pretty well spoken for a 13 year old. Gives me hope for the younger generations.

[Icyblue]

It might do you greater service to simply use Microsoft Paint (Win7 is okay but if you have WinXP that version is better), and composite the images into a single strip after spriting them in Microsoft Paint. It'll take much longer, and if you aren't used to it you might need a tutor. But the results you get will be very much worth it.

Aside from that I get your point and it is fairly amusing.

[Xylord]

It makes a while something made me cry, but this, this is just so emotional, so dramatic, I couldn't help but let a tear flow...The way the creeper innocently opens his arms up, only to face the cold denial of Steve... Sniff...

Keep it up! Also, Articulate Teens For The Win! (I'm 14 :3)

[Cheap Shot]

Don't listen to the MS paint comment. You're better off sticking with gimp because it's like photoshop. MS paint is a dead end and also pretty awful.

When I draw comics, my set up is:

Intous5 bamboo tablet | Before this I used a Bamboo Fun tablet which is cheap and works great.

Photoshop CS5 | gimp can substitute for Photoshop if you cant get photoshop.

I create a new layer (which you can do in gimp) and draw rough sketches of the comic I'm thinking of. I use that layer to arrange everything. Then I turn that layers opacity down so you can only just see it. There should be a slider for this in gimp somewhere on your layer options. I create a new layer, and draw more confident and clean lines over the faint sketch. Once that's done and I have all my lines, I turn off the sketch layer and create a new layer under it to paint in backgrounds, then a second layer to paint inside and under the lines I've drawn. To colour the characters pretty much. After that's done, I create a few more layers and add speech bubbles then write in the text, and sometimes I create another layer and give everything in the foreground a thick outline. Then the last layers on top are used to put my title bar over it and I'm done.

It's not a difficult process once you get used to it and it's a very professional way to draw digital comics. That is exactly how Mike Krahulik (Gabe) of Penny Arcade draws their strips. If you want to learn more, he does live drawing streams you can get to through their website, and you can watch an old video of him inking a drawing on his youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNREP5l4xTw <- warning, video contains music with swears in it!!!

Edit: cleaned up the comments to preserve this fine threads original purpose.

[Icyblue]

Don't listen to the MS paint comment. You're better off sticking with gimp because it's like photoshop.

I use GraphicsGale for more serious spriting, MS Paint is just the more easier to get or understand version (provided you know how to set up your canvas etc). And prefer it when sketching sprites.

If he has a tablet then yes your comment holds true. Hardly reason to be so negative, but if you're an artist at all you don't choose one over the other. You go with what works for you, and in his case he showed clear signs of hand doing it with a mouse. Even that nasty fill lines that should be avoided. Spriting it would be the logical choice when going for quality as well as learning.

Now again, if he has a tablet THEN YES everything you said would be great advice. But judging by his style you go with the most accessible option (you never assume someone has any extra tools), with the greater quality of results.

[Cheap Shot]

He's not doing spriting though, he's drawing comics...? I never assumed he had a tablet at all, I'm stating what I use personally since he's doing these inspired by my work, and offering a suggestion on what similar and cheap tools he could acquire (christmas/birthday) if he's serious about art and wants to mimic my workflow. Even if he doesn't have a tablet, I used a mouse to draw for years and there's quite a lot you can do to get clean lines and clean images. I don't quite get why you think spriting would be the logical choice for learning to make comics either but I disagree completely. Don't shit up the kids thread by trying to call out an admin for saying mspaint sucked.

[Icyblue]

He's not doing spriting though, he's drawing comics...? I never assumed he had a tablet at all, I'm stating what I use personally since he's doing these inspired by my work, and offering a suggestion on what similar and cheap tools he could acquire (christmas/birthday) if he's serious about art and wants to mimic my workflow. Even if he doesn't have a tablet, I used a mouse to draw for years and there's quite a lot you can do to get clean lines and clean images. I don't quite get why you think spriting would be the logical choice for learning to make comics either but I disagree completely.

I've done it fairly well in the past though I will admit that the higher the size the harder the sprite which would pose a massive problem depending on the style he inevitably chooses; which is kinda what we have to work with. How he does things.

However, given the tools he has at his disposal (freeware is what he mentioned basically sticking to), which would teach him the best while retaining the greatest quality to you then?

[Cheap Shot]

He's not going to get quality immediately and should never be concerned with that. He's 13. No one expects him to start putting out professional grade stuff each time he sits down to it. His work can be sloppy and sketchy as hell for a while and that's perfectly fine because when you're learning you shouldn't be concentrated on polishing all your stuff and having it be "perfect". You should be sticking to learning the fundamentals of drawing and developing your abilities. Getting used to drawing forms and understanding placement and what works and what doesn't in an image. You don't seem to have your priorities straight and shouldn't be giving advice to young artists.

[Icyblue]

Or I was taught to do both in one go? "Fundamentals" as I was taught comes AFTER you are comfortable with your mediums and other parts of what you use. Or during, for that matter. It is quite possible and most ARE learned by hobbyists on the go. It's hardly a concern. It'll come up when he thinks he wants the next creeper or zombie to be too far, or he'll ask.

Again, working with his hands. Not any standard. It's not a matter of sloppyness at all. If it came to that I sincerely apologize for my wording but I meant nothing of the sort. And polishing would come naturally during. My concern was more for immediate results to get his comics more across faster with a reasonable progression.

[Cheap Shot]

I understand you want to be right in an internet argument but don't put your e-peen before a 13 year olds future. They put you in jail for that in most countries.

http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/icys-photoedits-and-other-misc-art.13833/

This is your thread? Common man. Smuge tool? Deviant Art? Leave this poor kid alone before you damage him.

[Icyblue]

I understand you want to be right in an internet argument but don't put your e-peen before a 13 year olds future. They put you in jail for that in most countries.

http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/icys-photoedits-and-other-misc-art.13833/

This is your thread? Common man. Smuge tool? Deviant Art? Leave this poor kid alone before you damage him.

I don't actually smudge much lol, that weird glowy effect was me messing around, still don't even know HOW it was done rather not find out and I don't do DA either. And it's hardly an internet argument... But whatever. Let the kid decide, we both offered nice alternatives as well as points for him to follow; yours more to the principals, mine more for immediate if longer term results varying. If this whole brouhaha concerns you enough or I for that matter, I'll continue it over PM.

Not E-peen either. I still don't understand that phrase much but eh, again for personal conversation.

[Cheap Shot]

If you're still hanging around CyberTronn. Maybe this might help you.

https://yogscast.com/?pageid=comics&comicid=89

[TheCyberTronn]

Thanks Cheap! That's really helpful! (By the way, That's one of my favourites!)

I think I might have to invest in a tablet, just for fun!

[rhibakuska]

i really love TheCyberTronn's Avatar. XD i think it's looking through my soul, though. ._.