1.7.10 Wildernes & Progression (Looking for performance advice)

[0Beechlgz]

Hello, first of all I'd just like to introduce my modpack. I've been working on it since October and hadn't intended at first for it to be used by anyone but myself until I had a change of heart. It's a fun survival modpack, hard but not absolutely deadly, containing mods that add many new mobs, biomes and dimensions. It's supposed to feel very restrictive at the beginning especially where technology is concerned and overpowered at the end, as a reward.

 

It can be found here: http://www.technicpack.net/modpack/wilderness-progression.595211

 

Now, for the problem I need help with: Lag. It is the worst problem with this modpack so far. I've had other problems sure, but a clue was always present and fix was always somewhere to be found. With this I can find no clue, as I'm still very new. I need the help of a trained eye who knows what to look for and who might recognize the symptoms to be able to offer a solution.

 

My Symptoms: Initial lag on world generation and world save start. That is tolerable as it usually passes in a few seconds. Next the game is nicely playable at around 25-45 FPS. After a few minutes, say 5 or so, lag starts to increase. FPS becomes inconsistent and drops during high activity, coming back slightly when not doing anything. Blocks don't break instantly, sometimes taking several seconds to disappear and give their drop. FPS also fails to go above around 35, drops down to the single digits often.

 

What could it be? Could be my hardware or something else on my end. Could just be too many mods. But I'd still like to know what performance others get and if you have any advice for improving performance that would be much appreciated. If there's some mod conflict going on that I haven't managed to find yet and you know what it is please say. I've checked that IDs don't clash so hopefully that isn't the problem.

 

EDIT: I just realized that the poll depends somewhat on people's individual settings and so-on. It's just to get a rough idea, not meant to be incredibly accurate.

Edited February 28, 2015 by 0Beechlgz

[Munaus]

clicking that link gives me an error

copying the link to the launcher does nothing. you need to fix that

[0Beechlgz]

clicking that link gives me an error

copying the link to the launcher does nothing. you need to fix that

 

Very odd, works for me.

 

Here's a link to the page so you can retrieve the link yourself to make sure it works:

 

http://www.technicpack.net/modpack/wilderness-progression.595211

[Munaus]

works now.

 

nice collection of mods, except there's one I'm not too fond of; Gregtech

[0Beechlgz]

works now.

 

nice collection of mods, except there's one I'm not too fond of; Gregtech

 

I appreciate the opinion, since I really liked the look of it to begin with but I don't like how it's all vanilla ores or no vanilla ores, can't get any in-between (and appears to be causing a need copper for iron -> need iron for copper loop, not impossible to circumvent without cheats but still really tedious to find that iron or starting non-ore copper). Some of the recipe changes in it suit the modpack and the way it's configured but a lot of them could be done with MineTweaker instead. Can I ask which aspect of the mod you dislike and why, and do you think it's unsuitable for the modpack?

Edited February 28, 2015 by 0Beechlgz

[Munaus]

i'm afraid you will get a very biased and narrow opinion from me. I haven't actually played the mod

from looking around on both this forum and FTB I gathered enough intel that made me decide to avoid this mod at all cost.

I do not like grinding my ass of to get the machines I can get much easier without that mod

 

that was well over a year ago, perhaps GregoriusT has changed his philosophy since?

[Endermage93]

i didnt installed the pack but your problem are entitys (mobs)

Install mobcontrol or a mod to control the spawning of mobs.

And install fastcraft, also you have to enable fasth math, smooth world and maybe other things and disable other with optifine

There is no reason to have less than 50 fps with any modpack in a normal pc

Edited February 28, 2015 by Endermage93

[0Beechlgz]

i'm afraid you will get a very biased and narrow opinion from me. I haven't actually played the mod

from looking around on both this forum and FTB I gathered enough intel that made me decide to avoid this mod at all cost.

I do not like grinding my ass of to get the machines I can get much easier without that mod

 

that was well over a year ago, perhaps GregoriusT has changed his philosophy since?

 

Thank you for your honesty. You're right this is a bit of a grind (you're supposed to kind of live a bit like a cave man initially and "evolve" from there on), probably not the kind of modpack you're looking for.

 

I'm still in two minds about Gregtech though. It does enhance the grindy aspects and I like a lot of the recipe changes but the ore gen and having yet another tool set really bugs me, might remove it.

 

i didnt installed the pack but your problem are entitys (mobs)

Install mobcontrol or a mod to control the spawning of mobs.

And install fastcraft, also you have to enable fasth math, smooth world and maybe other things and disable other with optifine

There is no reason to have less than 50 fps with any modpack in a normal pc

 

I suspected it could be the issue. There are three different spawn control thingymajigs that I know of: Pokecubes, Lycanite's Mobs and Just Another Spawner. I've tried to keep everything as much under the control of JAS as possible via configs but I still think that it's possible JAS and Pokecubes/Lycanites (whichever mod the mob in question comes from) could be trying to spawn the same or similar mobs at the same time as one another. So there's also MobControl to try? Hadn't heard of it, thank you for suggesting. I'll see if it manages to work in place of JAS with less conflict.

 

Fastcraft... I couldn't find anything conclusive on permissions, and only one obscure forum post saying that Fastcraft should never be included in a modpack (like Optifine). So I'd rather stay on mod developer's good sides and play it safe. However when I run it on my own I add Fastcraft and Optifine and configure it to the best I can, including the settings you suggested (except smooth world, it says it only works for single core CPUs). The best results I get are with Optifine and Fastcraft installed.

 

It would be good to get some feedback on the performance though to make sure it definitely isn't just on my end as I lack faith in my own ability to build computers that work smoothly. I see people are downloading and playing, but no idea if they're actually enjoying it or if they're having frustrating issues.

Edited March 1, 2015 by 0Beechlgz

[Endermage93]

can you use opis to track the problem? wich chunk is consuming all the resources

there is a problem with ender io and other mod that spawn like one millon enderman in the nether

[0Beechlgz]

can you use opis to track the problem? wich chunk is consuming all the resources

there is a problem with ender io and other mod that spawn like one millon enderman in the nether

 

As soon as I installed Opis the block lag and rubber banding went away... does Opis actually do something? I thought it was just for diagnostic purposes. Still get a low but playable FPS. There are a few high use chunks but nothing like hundreds of mobs. Like I found an unexplained pocket of around 20 zubat encased in stone underground, for example. However when I went nearer to them and as I released them from their encasement the performance stayed the same, no extra lag, no stutter like you'd expect from being near or in view of the source of lag. I'm going to try reducing mob spawns overall. I wish I could lower PokeCubes spawns a bit, there are too many but I don't want rid of them entirely.

Edited March 1, 2015 by 0Beechlgz

[Mulixman33]

My modpacks tend to be heavy on the processing side, and I tend to counteract the lag with FPS+, Optifine and a few config tweaks. Try using FPS+ to increase the frames or look into some of your config settings. Also, looking over the mods you have installed, you have some pretty hefty processing mods like Local Weather and Storms, GregTech and the several mob-adding mods. Im not saying to remove them, but keep in mind that they can become memory hogs.

[0Beechlgz]

My modpacks tend to be heavy on the processing side, and I tend to counteract the lag with FPS+, Optifine and a few config tweaks. Try using FPS+ to increase the frames or look into some of your config settings. Also, looking over the mods you have installed, you have some pretty hefty processing mods like Local Weather and Storms, GregTech and the several mob-adding mods. Im not saying to remove them, but keep in mind that they can become memory hogs.

 

Thank you for the advice. I had tried FPS+ and had problems with it but maybe it's just a conflict somewhere. You're right, with the mods installed I can always expect some lag. I just got rid of GregTech and I can run the graphics on Fancy without taking too much of a FPS hit. Still slow though.