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I'm fully aware of all EE3 developments and of the existence of creative mode; thanks for the pedantry. Complaining about EE2 got EE3 to be crapped up so complaining about EE3 should get it fixed.

This doesn't look anything like an ancient Greek villa :colbert:

I deserve to get what I want as much as you do. You already got what you want, so maybe YOU should shut up. Nobody silenced you when you complained about EE being OP.

I never said it was better than one Turtle, it just gives you a decent yield vs time so that mining is actually worth while. If I mined with a drill or a enchanted pick I wouldn't come back with 1/4 of what my Quarry will dig up when I get home. I may as well just build stuff and rely on Quarry resources. With the Destruction Catalyst mining was a worthwhile use of my time, now it's not after a point. I keep posting about wanting EE2 back because people posting about EE2 being OP are what got it nerfed. Turn about is fair play and I deserve to get what I want as much as all the people cheering EE2s death.

This is where we differ. I do not find a lot of mining to be fun at all; I like a little bit at the beginning but after that I am building machines 100% of the time and using Quarry resources and automatic farms. With EE2 I could go out with the Destruction Catalyst if I was low and come back with a decent haul but now it's not worth mining once I get my first Quarry or Mining Turtle running.

Mining Diamonds is not a challenge, it's just tedious. *Dig staircase to level 9, dig in straight line until Diamonds. Repeat* Of course if I had my EE2 Diving Rod it would be a heck of a lot more fun.

Well you don't have to, you can build stuff with duplicators if you want! Or you can throw it into a lava pit and keep playing the save however you like. This I think is the reason for EE2 hate. When I play a Minecraft world I throw maybe 10-20 hours into it max, then I get bored and start over. EE2 is great for me, it lets me get all my machines up and running and get all the cool toys in the time. Kind of like Nethack, I want to pick up a game, figure out how to become godly, then start over. Playing on servers you can't really do that. Everyone holds onto everything and after 20 hours of play you effectively have beaten the game, but you can't start over so it's a drag.

Then you start over? The challenges are modular you can beat it lots of different ways.

If EE was the same thing as creative mode than why would anyone care that it's gone? They still have creative mode! Clearly you don't understand what people find appealing about it.

Holy shit x3n0ph0b3 (the original creator of EE2) is making another mod. What is it? No special crafting systems or custom ores just a shit load of cool items that you can craft with vanilla items. I'm not sad about EE3 any more http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic...reliquary-v104/

It does in Plus Block! You can buy one for 33 Diamond Blocks; basically "you win, have fun". Why do you care if other people have lots of resources? Does it bother you that everyone gets to have fun without knowing how to make fiddly machines? Minecraft is infinite, even on a server you can just go somewhere else and not interact with them if you don't want. We wouldn't want to have fun in our games now would we?

Seems a little under powered to me.

If EE2 was available I would have put that in too. My pack is all about having as many options as possible. It has Tubestuff which has Blackhole chests and Duplicators which are far more broken than EE. I actually like the classic PS crafting recipes (so I can make transmutation logistics autocrafting systems) and have added them back in to 1.2.5 when I played that. It was a tipping point, everything else has so many cool features I couldn't not upgrade. This is what bothers me, my favorite mod is being gutted for the sake of it being too popular! Why can't people just use config options? Why does EE2s mere existence threaten server admins?

The creator is a douche for not releasing the source for EE2. He knows damn well that someone would update it and no one would give a toot about EE3 and it's extra grinding for less powerful items.

I'm not saying EE2 was great for servers, I'm just saying that's why options exist. They could have kept EE2 functionally intact (and worked on NEW content instead of remaking everything) and simply added some options. Maybe a config list of EMC values (which whould be extra handy for adding new mod items), and one that lets you edit how much Collectors produce, or how fast Condensers break stuff down. All it needed was tweaks and config files, then servers could ban/balance whatever they wanted I could have kept my game of gradual god mod. But no, the new features list of EE reads like an obituary The only stuff on this list is "All of the fun parts that you used this mod for have been removed, and you'll have to build yet another type of wire" Fun times! Why should I want to play this?

They don't want the powerful EE items to be optional or even exist. They know it's really popular and most servers would run with them enabled if given the option.

Well I don't play Minecraft like an MMO, I don't really give a fig about virtual economies or grinding more blocks than the guy next door. I just want to have some fun, and EE2 was really fun. Playing modded Minecraft feels so small and slow now; I don't want to have put a million hours into my single player game to get anywhere just so some poop sockers on a multiplayer server can feel good about having more diamond blocks than the newbs.

A mining Turtle is as good as a Quarry and only costs 3 Diamonds, nerf Computer Craft!

It only takes a few block breakers and frame motors and you have infinite of every resource! RP2 should be nerfed.

So why do you care if other people use it? No one is making you. Do you have less fun if other people enjoy over powered mods?

No, the map is included in both downloads. The custom zip at the bottom is for easy installing with the Technic Launcher.

You should try my PLUS Block map, it has all the mods you like (including Power Converters!) and a convenient shop system that you can use to trade resources for Diamonds and use those Diamonds towards top tier mod items. It's also a Technic Launcher custom pack: http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/plus-block-way-better-than-feed-the-beast.35019/

I really wish they had not nerfed EE3, for one simple fact: the people that complain about EE2 being overpowered never used it! Why the hell should I care what their opinions are? I liked EE2 and I wish it was ported, it's existence never stopped anyone from not using it. You should try my PLUS Block map, it has all the mods you like and a convenient shop system that you can use to trade resources for Diamonds and use those Diamonds towards top tier mod items (including the Duplicator, a good replacement for the Condenser). It's also a Technic Launcher custom pack: http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/plus-block-way-better-than-feed-the-beast.35019/

You should try my PLUS Block map, it has all the mods you like and a convenient shop system that you can use to trade resources for Diamonds and use those Diamonds towards top tier mod items (like the awesome Gravity Suit which lets you fly!). It's also a Technic Launcher custom pack: http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/plus-block-way-better-than-feed-the-beast.35019/

You should try my PLUS Block map, it has all the mods you like and a convenient shop system that you can use to trade resources for Diamonds and use those Diamonds towards top tier mod items. It's also a Technic Launcher custom pack: http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/plus-block-way-better-than-feed-the-beast.35019/