slowpoke101

jakj I am sure this wont make a blind bit of difference to you, but in the past I have read some of your posts and already come to the conclusion that your an ignorant buffoon. I am sure in real life you are a perfectly nice person, your views however stink of fanboi-ism. You also are commenting on my threads when you clearly havent read a word I have written. I am not skipping past anything, I quite clearly said Technic and Tekkit are good ideas. Mod packs are good ideas, that is not the problem. The problem lies in the way the team went about it. As can be quite clearly seen in that IC2 post, back then at least Kakermix's attitude was he didnt care a bit about the modders and asking permission and what not. You want to solve this entire problem today. Its really not hard, in fact its incredibly easy. I would be willing to bet you could do it inside of 24 hours. 2 steps is all it would take. Step 1) Ask Kakermix to step down. Thank him for his contribution but for the good of the pack he would need to leave. 99% of the bad press is totally down to Kaker and his attitude in the early days. He burnt a lot of bridges. Sorry but thats just true. Step 2) As soon as Kaker steps down officially, put up 1 thread in General Announcements regarding permissions. Then go around all the mod makers and ask them to post on that thread. I do not speak for the developers, but I would happily bet that remove that barrier and your life gets a lot easier. Edit to reply to Mechacrash I am sorry but unlike a lot of people I am sure you know. Just because I have a current viewpoint, that does not mean I will not change my mind in the face of evidence that goes against my beliefs. It has been quite clearly demonstrated in this thread and not just by me that The permissions technic claim to have are not quite as solid as they would have you believe. So I reverse your comment and throw it right back at you. You have already made your mind up that the Technic Team are wonderful people who go round holding hands singing hymns in the day time and at night come home and make everyones life easier by making the technic pack. Oh and they do so with the full consent of all the individual developers. I am here because I welcome the discussion. If anyone has anything valid to say I welcome it.

Hey Cheapshot, in reply to you post #20. My problem is that their are 2 different sides to this story, there is your side where you say that everything is cool between you and all the mod developers in private and there is the other side. I am sure it is common knowledge that I speak to a lot of these developers on a daily basis. A fair few of them are regulars in the Teamspeak channel I run, and I play alongside a lot of them on the pahicraft server. I dont want to give the impression that I am some big deal in the minecraft community with this name dropping. I only mention this to validate the next part. The conversations I have with the mod developers with regard to technic and tekkit dont have what you would call a friendly tone. On the contrary I have not spoken to a single mod developer who right up to today is willing to openly support technic and our conversations with regard to the pack are generally negative in tone. By the same token though it is important to note that it very hard for me to get any of them to openly post in this thread or on these boards against technic. So back then I could not dismiss the notion that what I was being told was in some part inaccurate and technic had actually received the needed permissions. This is when I spoke to Kakermix briefly via PM's on this board. It is no my place to quote what is a private message on these boards so it is very difficult to supply a context to the next bit. However I hope I convey it in such a way as to make it understandable. It is a completely valid point that any discussions between the mod makers and technic. If they wanted to tell me about any discussions they would have. See above really, as I have already said, I had already spoken to the mod developers before even talking to Kakermix. I again spoke to some of the developers this week with regards to Technic Pack and what you are telling the world doesnt exactly line up with what they say to me. I am curious to hear you answer to the next question. I was given the information that after the conversations between you and some of the mod develoers in IRC (for which I was present) with regards to the consent for EE2 and the conditions you were asked to meet that you were going to make attempts to get all the permissions you needed. When I enquired a few weeks later as to how this was going. I was told (and I have checked up on this since to confirm I am not getting this wrong) you had given up on trying to get these permissions. Finally I understand you do not care what I or Minecraft forums or the so called vocal minorty think. But make no mistake, I do not go around acting on misinformation and I certainly do not go around basing my own opinions on rumours. However I will end on these 2 questions. They are not difficult questions and maybe you can answer them. 1) Apart from the admin team of technic. Who has seen or validated the permissions that technic has with regards to the mods in the pack? I see a lot of people on your boards claiming that technic is now legit, but has any of them in any manner validated that this is true? 2) Seriously why if you are so confident in your permissions do you not just do what I did back when I was questioned about mine. I had a couple of idiots from another small illegal mod pack make a complaint about the pack I was doing for the FTB Map. I had my thread taken down and instructed not to publicise the modpack due to the fact that I was not complying with the Minecraft Forum Rules. Although the source of the complaint was a pair of idiots, the complaint was legitimate and funnily enough although they may not like this, I actually thank them for bringing it up. I started a thread and inside of 24 hours I had posts from all but one of the mod makers (iChun was on holiday and that permission was added a couple of weeks later. My point is, if you dont care about MCForums thats cool. But lets just end the argument once and for all. We may be a vocal minority, but we dont need to be. I would love to be able to make maps for Technic and I would love to not have to go through the hassle of setting up websites and launchers and updaters etc etc. But without that thread, I cannot do a thing. I will even help you, set up the thread ask no one but mod developers to post in there. We can go around and ask all the developers to just take 2 minutes to go and post in the thread and we can all end this right now (trust me, if they are willing it is not hard to get them to post, they are not all monsters. Of course you wont do this though will you. Because we both know, no one is going to post in that thread.

Hey, If this is the only post I make here thats cool, but just to clear things up Cheap Shot, I did get in touch via PM on these forums with Kakermix (the pms are still there if you want to see em) with regards to technic going legit and well he did the usual hide behind the veil of I do not need to prove anything to you blah blah blah. Its a shame really, because my life would have been so much easier if I could have just built FTB maps using technic pack as a base.