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Tekkit running on MCPC+ unable to use HomeSpawnPlus


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So I started my own Tekkit server and some friends immediately requested the inclusion of some specific plugins.

HomeSpawnPlus seemed like a good idea anyway but it's a bukkit(Craft) plugin and Tekkit turns out to be Forge-based.

So after reading up on stuff I found out that MCPC+ actually allows you to run bukkit and forge plugins simultaneously. It even shows hwo you just replace the Tekkit.jar with the MCPCplus.jar and it should work!

And true enough, tekkit works! And the CreeperControl that was already in the /plugins/ map suddenly came to live as well! Proof it works!

Except...

HomeSpawnPlus throws some errors during startup and even though the server claims it is loaded, I cannot access the console command.

I am aware that running Tekkit through MCPC+ and trying to get an unrelated bukkit plugin running might too much to ask for advice here.

The only think I currently can think of is that I might need an older build version of MCPC+

I faintly remember the MCPC+ version number for forge was one value higher then the forge version mentioned for Tekkit. But I have no idea where to find an older version of MCPC+ beyond what the list offers on the website.

The Server log after a restart

2014-02-03 10:10:47 [iNFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.5.2

2014-02-03 10:10:47 [iNFO] MinecraftForge v

2014-02-03 10:10:47 [iNFO] 7.8.1.738

2014-02-03 10:10:47 [iNFO]  Initialized

 

2014-02-03 10:10:47 [iNFO] Replaced 85 ore recipies

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE] java.io.FileNotFoundException: /home/minecraft/multicraft/servers/myserver/./openperipheral/scripts.txt (No such file or directory)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.io.FileInputStream.<init>(FileInputStream.java:138)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.io.FileInputStream.<init>(FileInputStream.java:97)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.io.FileReader.<init>(FileReader.java:58)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at openperipheral.common.util.FileLineReader.readLineByLine(FileLineReader.java:18)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at openperipheral.common.util.MountingUtils.refreshLatestFiles(MountingUtils.java:14)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at openperipheral.OpenPeripheral.preInit(OpenPeripheral.java:93)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:601)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:494)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:601)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:314)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:192)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:172)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:601)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventHandler.handleEvent(EventHandler.java:74)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventHandler.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventHandler.java:45)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:314)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:296)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:267)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:103)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:515)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLServerHandler.beginServerLoading(FMLServerHandler.java:85)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLCommonHandler.onServerStart(FMLCommonHandler.java:350)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:94)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:588)

2014-02-03 10:11:02 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:573)

2014-02-03 10:11:03 [iNFO] Loading properties

2014-02-03 10:11:03 [iNFO] Default game type: SURVIVAL

2014-02-03 10:11:03 [iNFO] Generating keypair

2014-02-03 10:11:04 [iNFO] Starting Minecraft server on 188.122.88.132:25718

2014-02-03 10:11:04 [iNFO] This server is running CraftBukkit version git-MCPC-Plus-jenkins-MCPC-Plus-Legacy-653 (MC: 1.5.2) (Implementing API version 1.5.2-R1.1-SNAPSHOT)

2014-02-03 10:11:04 [iNFO] Galacticraft successfully injected bytecode into: codechicken/nei/ContainerCreativeInv (2 / 1)

2014-02-03 10:11:04 [iNFO] Galacticraft Moon Loaded: 12 Languages.

2014-02-03 10:11:04 [iNFO] [Mekanism] Successfully loaded gas transmission NetworkLoader.

2014-02-03 10:11:05 [iNFO] Basic Components Loaded: 11 Languages.

2014-02-03 10:11:05 [iNFO] Loading ComputerCraft v1.53 (rev 1120)

2014-02-03 10:11:05 [iNFO] ComputerCraft: Searching for RedPowerLib...

2014-02-03 10:11:05 [iNFO] ComputerCraft: RedPowerLib not found.

2014-02-03 10:11:05 [iNFO] Loading CCTurtle v1.53 (rev 1120)

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] ProjectBench: Registered block id @ 976. Rendering: true @: 5

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] Loading qCraft v1.01 (rev 106)

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for electronicCircuit

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for advancedCircuit

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for iridiumPlate

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for energyCrystal

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for reBattery

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for batBox

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for wrench

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for generator

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-03 10:11:09 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-03 10:11:12 [iNFO] Mapping loaded 7 packages, 5185 classes, 17732 fields, 34330 methods, flags dd6

2014-02-03 10:11:12 [iNFO] Loaded inheritance map of 769 classes

2014-02-03 10:11:12 [sEVERE] ebean.properties not found

2014-02-03 10:11:12 [iNFO] DataSourcePool [HomeSpawnPlus] autoCommit[false] transIsolation[sERIALIZABLE] min[2] max[20]

2014-02-03 10:11:12 [iNFO] SubClassFactory parent ClassLoader [org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader]

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Entities enhanced[0] subclassed[7]

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] Loading CreeperControl v0.4.0

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus] Loading HomeSpawnPlus v1.7.7.2

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 65 Desert Oil Field at BiomeBase[65]

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 66 Ocean Oil Field at BiomeBase[66]

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 217 Limbo at BiomeBase[217]

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 218 Pocket Dimension at BiomeBase[218]

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Preparing level "worldd"

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Registered command debug with permission node vanilla.command.debug

2014-02-03 10:11:13 [iNFO] Registered command scoreboard with permission node vanilla.command.scoreboard

2014-02-03 10:11:14 [iNFO] Registering Pocket Dims

2014-02-03 10:11:14 [iNFO] Loading DimDoors data

2014-02-03 10:11:14 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 0 (Dimension: 0, Seed: -7988410723487421695)

2014-02-03 10:11:14 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 1 (Dimension: -23, Seed: 9045852381298361271)

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 2 (Dimension: 1, Seed: 9045852381298361271)

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 3 (Dimension: -1, Seed: 9045852381298361271)

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] Enabling CreeperControl v0.4.0

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] CreeperControl 0.4.0 (Build null) is enabled!

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] [CreeperControl] Controlling Creepers TNT

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus] Enabling HomeSpawnPlus v1.7.7.2

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus]  Loaded 138 locale strings (0 overrides)

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus]  using SUPERPERMS for permissions

2014-02-03 10:11:15 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus]  Vault not found, HSP economy features are disabled

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [sEVERE] Error occurred while enabling HomeSpawnPlus v1.7.7.2 (Is it up to date?)

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/bukkit/craftbukkit/v1_7_R1/CraftServer

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.register(CommandRegister.java:107)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.register(CommandRegister.java:170)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.registerDefaultCommand(CommandRegister.java:301)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.registerAllCommands(CommandRegister.java:354)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.HomeSpawnPlus.onEnable(HomeSpawnPlus.java:293)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:217)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:384)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:383)

    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_5_R3.CraftServer.loadPlugin(CraftServer.java:303)

    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_5_R3.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:285)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71243_i(MinecraftServer.java:479)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71222_d(MinecraftServer.java:445)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71247_a(MinecraftServer.java:385)

    at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:214)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:588)

    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:573)

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_7_R1.CraftServer

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:346)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:338)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)

    ... 16 more

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Server permissions file permissions.yml is empty, ignoring it

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Could not determine default inventory size for type codechicken.enderstorage.storage.item.TileEnderChest using size of 9

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Done (5.235s)! For help, type "help" or "?"

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command cofh with permission node cofh.command.CommandHandler

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command ssinvite with permission node micdoodle8.mods.galacticraft.core.command.GCCoreCommandSpaceStationAddOwner

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command ssuninvite with permission node micdoodle8.mods.galacticraft.core.command.GCCoreCommandSpaceStationRemoveOwner

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command buildcraft with permission node buildcraft.core.CommandBuildCraft

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command modflag with permission node universalelectricity.prefab.flag.CommandFlag

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command chunkloaders with permission node codechicken.chunkloader.CommandChunkLoaders

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command ccdebug with permission node codechicken.chunkloader.CommandDebugInfo

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-resetdungeons with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandResetDungeons

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-rift with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandCreateDungeonRift

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-deletelinks with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandDeleteAllLinks

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-deletedimension with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandDeleteDimensionData

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-??? with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandDeleteRifts

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-export with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandEndDungeonCreation

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-dimensiondata with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandPrintDimensionData

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-prune with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandPruneDimensions

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dd-create with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandStartDungeonCreation

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Loading DimDoors data

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command ee3 with permission node com.pahimar.ee3.command.CommandEE

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command logisticspipes with permission node logisticspipes.commands.LogisticsPipesCommand

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command tpx with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandTPX

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command myst-create with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandCreateDim

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command myst-agebook with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandCreateAgebook

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command myst-toggleworldinstability with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandToggleWorldInstability

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command toggledownfall with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandToggleDownfall

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command time with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandTime

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command myst-permissions with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandMystPermissions

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command myst-regenchunk with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandRegenerateChunk

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command tps with permission node mods.immibis.core.commands.TPSCommand

2014-02-03 10:11:16 [iNFO] Registered command dimanc with permission node mods.immibis.chunkloader.DimensionalAnchors$1

2014-02-03 10:11:17 [iNFO] Loading NEI

2014-02-03 10:11:50 [iNFO] There are 0/16 players online:

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I have seen that error before, top line says the problem /openperipheral/scripts.txt

that txt file is missing and it needs it to run, so you either have the scripts.txt in the wrong dir or it is missing all together

I looked up about this missing script.txt and it is just a matter of creating the file empty or not.

I think this might be worth looking into:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/bukkit/craftbukkit/v1_7_R1/CraftServer

elsewhere I find this error: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_5_R3

So I am guessing this version of MCPC+ applies org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_5_R3 (not sure because I don't know how to interpret this: This server is running CraftBukkit version git-MCPC-Plus-jenkins-MCPC-Plus-Legacy-653 (MC: 1.5.2) (Implementing API version 1.5.2-R1.1-SNAPSHOT)).

And this version of HomeSpawnPlus tries to access org/bukkit/craftbukkit/v1_7_R1/CraftServer

So either I have to find a version of MCPC+ that uses craftbukkit v1_7_R1 AND still works with this version of tekkit, or I have to find a version of HomeSpawnPlus that uses craftbukkit v1_5_R3

Neither of which I can find.

This is the current situation:

2014-02-04 08:12:23 [iNFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.5.2

2014-02-04 08:12:23 [iNFO] MinecraftForge v

2014-02-04 08:12:23 [iNFO] 7.8.1.738

2014-02-04 08:12:23 [iNFO]  Initialized

 

2014-02-04 08:12:23 [iNFO] Replaced 85 ore recipies

2014-02-04 08:12:37 [iNFO] Loading properties

2014-02-04 08:12:37 [iNFO] Default game type: SURVIVAL

2014-02-04 08:12:37 [iNFO] Generating keypair

2014-02-04 08:12:38 [iNFO] Starting Minecraft server on 188.122.88.132:25718

2014-02-04 08:12:38 [iNFO] This server is running CraftBukkit version git-MCPC-Plus-jenkins-MCPC-Plus-Legacy-653 (MC: 1.5.2) (Implementing API version 1.5.2-R1.1-SNAPSHOT)

2014-02-04 08:12:38 [iNFO] Galacticraft successfully injected bytecode into: codechicken/nei/ContainerCreativeInv (2 / 1)

2014-02-04 08:12:38 [iNFO] Galacticraft Moon Loaded: 12 Languages.

2014-02-04 08:12:39 [iNFO] [Mekanism] Successfully loaded gas transmission NetworkLoader.

2014-02-04 08:12:39 [iNFO] Basic Components Loaded: 11 Languages.

2014-02-04 08:12:39 [iNFO] Loading ComputerCraft v1.53 (rev 1120)

2014-02-04 08:12:39 [iNFO] ComputerCraft: Searching for RedPowerLib...

2014-02-04 08:12:39 [iNFO] ComputerCraft: RedPowerLib not found.

2014-02-04 08:12:39 [iNFO] Loading CCTurtle v1.53 (rev 1120)

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] ProjectBench: Registered block id @ 976. Rendering: true @: 5

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] Loading qCraft v1.01 (rev 106)

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for electronicCircuit

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for advancedCircuit

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for iridiumPlate

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for energyCrystal

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for reBattery

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for batBox

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for wrench

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [iNFO] IC2 API: Call getItem failed for generator

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-04 08:12:43 [sEVERE] [Mekanism] Error while adding recipe: mekanism.common.RecipeHandler

2014-02-04 08:12:45 [iNFO] Mapping loaded 7 packages, 5185 classes, 17732 fields, 34330 methods, flags dd6

2014-02-04 08:12:45 [iNFO] Loaded inheritance map of 769 classes

2014-02-04 08:12:46 [sEVERE] ebean.properties not found

2014-02-04 08:12:46 [iNFO] DataSourcePool [HomeSpawnPlus] autoCommit[false] transIsolation[sERIALIZABLE] min[2] max[20]

2014-02-04 08:12:46 [iNFO] SubClassFactory parent ClassLoader [org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader]

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Entities enhanced[0] subclassed[7]

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] Loading CreeperControl v0.4.0

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus] Loading HomeSpawnPlus v1.7.7.2

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 65 Desert Oil Field at BiomeBase[65]

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 66 Ocean Oil Field at BiomeBase[66]

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 217 Limbo at BiomeBase[217]

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Adding biome mapping 218 Pocket Dimension at BiomeBase[218]

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Preparing level "worldd"

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Registered command debug with permission node vanilla.command.debug

2014-02-04 08:12:47 [iNFO] Registered command scoreboard with permission node vanilla.command.scoreboard

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] Registering Pocket Dims

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] Loading DimDoors data

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 0 (Dimension: 0, Seed: -7988410723487421695)

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 1 (Dimension: -23, Seed: 9045852381298361271)

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 2 (Dimension: 1, Seed: 9045852381298361271)

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] Preparing start region for level 3 (Dimension: -1, Seed: 9045852381298361271)

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] Enabling CreeperControl v0.4.0

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] CreeperControl 0.4.0 (Build null) is enabled!

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] [CreeperControl] [CreeperControl] Controlling Creepers TNT

2014-02-04 08:12:48 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus] Enabling HomeSpawnPlus v1.7.7.2

2014-02-04 08:12:49 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus]  Loaded 138 locale strings (0 overrides)

2014-02-04 08:12:49 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus]  using SUPERPERMS for permissions

2014-02-04 08:12:49 [iNFO] [HomeSpawnPlus]  Vault not found, HSP economy features are disabled

2014-02-04 08:12:49 [sEVERE] Error occurred while enabling HomeSpawnPlus v1.7.7.2 (Is it up to date?)

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/bukkit/craftbukkit/v1_7_R1/CraftServer

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.register(CommandRegister.java:107)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.register(CommandRegister.java:170)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.registerDefaultCommand(CommandRegister.java:301)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.command.CommandRegister.registerAllCommands(CommandRegister.java:354)

    at org.morganm.homespawnplus.HomeSpawnPlus.onEnable(HomeSpawnPlus.java:293)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:217)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:384)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:383)

    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_5_R3.CraftServer.loadPlugin(CraftServer.java:303)

    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_5_R3.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:285)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71243_i(MinecraftServer.java:479)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71222_d(MinecraftServer.java:445)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71247_a(MinecraftServer.java:385)

    at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:214)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:588)

    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:573)

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_7_R1.CraftServer

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:346)

    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:338)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)

    ... 16 more

2014-02-04 08:12:49 [iNFO] Server permissions file permissions.yml is empty, ignoring it

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Could not determine default inventory size for type codechicken.enderstorage.storage.item.TileEnderChest using size of 9

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Done (5.316s)! For help, type "help" or "?"

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command cofh with permission node cofh.command.CommandHandler

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command ssinvite with permission node micdoodle8.mods.galacticraft.core.command.GCCoreCommandSpaceStationAddOwner

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command ssuninvite with permission node micdoodle8.mods.galacticraft.core.command.GCCoreCommandSpaceStationRemoveOwner

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command buildcraft with permission node buildcraft.core.CommandBuildCraft

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command modflag with permission node universalelectricity.prefab.flag.CommandFlag

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command chunkloaders with permission node codechicken.chunkloader.CommandChunkLoaders

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command ccdebug with permission node codechicken.chunkloader.CommandDebugInfo

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-resetdungeons with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandResetDungeons

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-rift with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandCreateDungeonRift

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-deletelinks with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandDeleteAllLinks

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-deletedimension with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandDeleteDimensionData

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-??? with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandDeleteRifts

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-export with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandEndDungeonCreation

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-dimensiondata with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandPrintDimensionData

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-prune with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandPruneDimensions

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dd-create with permission node StevenDimDoors.mod_pocketDim.commands.CommandStartDungeonCreation

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Loading DimDoors data

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command ee3 with permission node com.pahimar.ee3.command.CommandEE

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command logisticspipes with permission node logisticspipes.commands.LogisticsPipesCommand

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command tpx with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandTPX

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command myst-create with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandCreateDim

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command myst-agebook with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandCreateAgebook

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command myst-toggleworldinstability with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandToggleWorldInstability

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command toggledownfall with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandToggleDownfall

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command time with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandTime

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command myst-permissions with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandMystPermissions

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command myst-regenchunk with permission node com.xcompwiz.mystcraft.command.CommandRegenerateChunk

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command tps with permission node mods.immibis.core.commands.TPSCommand

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Registered command dimanc with permission node mods.immibis.chunkloader.DimensionalAnchors$1

2014-02-04 08:12:50 [iNFO] Loading NEI

2014-02-04 08:13:24 [iNFO] There are 0/16 players online:

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I have been told by a couple of bukkit authors that 99% of all 1.7.x plugins are compatible with bukkit 1.6.4 (or mcpc+ in our case) so just run the 1.6.4 mcpc+. there is an issue with chunkloading we are not 100% sure where it is from but everything else works and I am running some 1.7.x bukkit plugins but try and and let me know if you have issues too

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I have been told by a couple of bukkit authors that 99% of all 1.7.x plugins are compatible with bukkit 1.6.4 (or mcpc+ in our case) so just run the 1.6.4 mcpc+. there is an issue with chunkloading we are not 100% sure where it is from but everything else works and I am running some 1.7.x bukkit plugins but try and and let me know if you have issues too

Not really working:

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [iNFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.6.4

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [iNFO] MinecraftForge v

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [iNFO] 9.11.1.965

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [iNFO]  Initialized

 

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [iNFO] Replaced 111 ore recipies

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:264)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.identifyMods(Loader.java:330)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:484)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLServerHandler.beginServerLoading(FMLServerHandler.java:99)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLCommonHandler.onServerStart(FMLCommonHandler.java:350)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:92)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:634)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE] Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: mods.immibis.core.porting.ClientProxy142

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:186)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    ... 9 more

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE] Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Attempted to load class mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142 for invalid side SERVER

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at cpw.mods.fml.common.asm.transformers.SideTransformer.transform(SideTransformer.java:51)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:274)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:172)

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE]    ... 11 more

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE] Encountered an unexpected exception NoClassDefFoundError

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142

    at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)

    at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:264)

    at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.identifyMods(Loader.java:330)

    at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:484)

    at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLServerHandler.beginServerLoading(FMLServerHandler.java:99)

    at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLCommonHandler.onServerStart(FMLCommonHandler.java:350)

    at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:92)

    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:634)

    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: mods.immibis.core.porting.ClientProxy142

    at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:186)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)

    ... 9 more

Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Attempted to load class mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142 for invalid side SERVER

    at cpw.mods.fml.common.asm.transformers.SideTransformer.transform(SideTransformer.java:51)

    at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:274)

    at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:172)

    ... 11 more

2014-02-04 18:39:56 [sEVERE] This crash report has been saved to: /home/minecraft/multicraft/servers/myserver/./crash-reports/crash-2014-02-04_18.39.56-server.txt

2014-02-04 18:42:07 [iNFO] Stopping server

2014-02-04 18:42:07 [iNFO] Saving worlds

crash report here: http://pastebin.com/d9jjrxwY

I have no idea which mcpc+ I need to pick to get this working. Or which homespawnplus for that matter.

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Ok, following your advice, I installed: mcpc-plus-1.6.4-R2.1-forge965-B229.jar

Restarted the server, this is the server.log:

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [iNFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.6.4

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [iNFO] MinecraftForge v

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [iNFO] 9.11.1.965

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [iNFO] Initialized

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [iNFO] Replaced 111 ore recipies

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:264)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.identifyMods(Loader.java:330)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:484)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLServerHandler.beginServerLoading(FMLServerHandler.java:99)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLCommonHandler.onServerStart(FMLCommonHandler.java:350)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:92)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:634)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: mods.immibis.core.porting.ClientProxy142

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:186)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] ... 9 more

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Attempted to load class mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142 for invalid side SERVER

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.asm.transformers.SideTransformer.transform(SideTransformer.java:51)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:274)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:172)

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] ... 11 more

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] Encountered an unexpected exception NoClassDefFoundError

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142

at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)

at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:264)

at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.identifyMods(Loader.java:330)

at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:484)

at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLServerHandler.beginServerLoading(FMLServerHandler.java:99)

at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLCommonHandler.onServerStart(FMLCommonHandler.java:350)

at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:92)

at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:634)

at net.minecraft.server.ThreadMinecraftServer.run(ThreadMinecraftServer.java:16)

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: mods.immibis.core.porting.ClientProxy142

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:186)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)

... 9 more

Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Attempted to load class mods/immibis/core/porting/ClientProxy142 for invalid side SERVER

at cpw.mods.fml.common.asm.transformers.SideTransformer.transform(SideTransformer.java:51)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:274)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:172)

... 11 more

2014-02-05 09:12:41 [sEVERE] This crash report has been saved to: /home/minecraft/multicraft/servers/myserver/./crash-reports/crash-2014-02-05_09.12.41-server.txt

The crash report is found here: http://pastebin.com/VMLvn4ZE

All this applied to the server for this mod: http://www.technicpack.net/tekkit

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then that is your problem the mcpc+ is, you have to run the mods for that appropriate version. The mcpc+ in that link is only for tekkit 1.2.2+

Ok, so to summerize, the latest version of mcpc+ is too old for the latest version of tekkit? Or to be correct, latest version of mcpc+ is too old for the mods being included in the latest version of Tekkit?

 

 

I guess my only option is to grab the latest version of mcpc+ (mcpc-plus-1.7.2-R0.3-forge1022-B29.jar) add each and every mod used in tekkit and hope all the config files from my current tekkit still works to make them all cooperate?

I'm kinda fishing for a solution here.

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Ok, so to summerize, the latest version of mcpc+ is too old for the latest version of tekkit? Or to be correct, latest version of mcpc+ is too old for the mods being included in the latest version of Tekkit?

 

 

I guess my only option is to grab the latest version of mcpc+ (mcpc-plus-1.7.2-R0.3-forge1022-B29.jar) add each and every mod used in tekkit and hope all the config files from my current tekkit still works to make them all cooperate?

I'm kinda fishing for a solution here.

if you're running the latest beta versions of tekkit, it's 1.6.4.  trying to use a 1.7 server will cause tons of issues.  if you're not running the latest beta versions of tekkit and are instead using the current release build, it's still on 1.5.2, which could be your issue as well.

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if you're running the latest beta versions of tekkit, it's 1.6.4.  trying to use a 1.7 server will cause tons of issues.  if you're not running the latest beta versions of tekkit and are instead using the current release build, it's still on 1.5.2, which could be your issue as well.

Will the beta version of tekkit enable me to use mcpc+ and HomeSpawnPlus?

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Will the beta version of tekkit enable me to use mcpc+ and HomeSpawnPlus?

I have no idea, as that's more an issue of MCPC+ being compatible with that plugin and less to do with tekkit.  but I do know that if you use the current recommended tekkit server, it won't work with a 1.6.4 MCPC+ because the mods are made for 1.5.2.

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Ok, I just going to combine mods to my own modpack then.

Except for "Custome Lan Ports" all mods have a 1.6.4 version.

Only trick will be to see how the setup will handle mcpc+ 

First attempt I just dumped all the mods and tried it to find out it didn't work.

One of the mods I added was for 1.7.4

So now I am adding em one by one, and when they all work with the forge client, I will try the mcpc+ client/server.

Hope this works.

 

Bonus is that 1.6.4 uses the universal mod... method? So no fiddling between client and server files.

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Bonus is that 1.6.4 uses the universal mod... method? So no fiddling between client and server files.

any mod made starting with 1.3 does this, technically.  1.3 is when they merged client and server stuff, turning SSP into emulated multiplayer.  so while you're correct, that isn't really any different from 1.5.2.

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Except for "Custome Lan Ports" all mods have a 1.6.4 version.

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First attempt I just dumped all the mods and tried it to find out it didn't work.

 

While the mods may be "universal" in that the same mod can work on client and server, you still can't use client only mods on a server. Custom Lan Ports is specifically one that will not allow your server to start. Anything that relies on things specific to the client like rendering the world, GUI stuff, etc. will prevent the server from starting.

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this is a fresh server? (i have yet to find anyone who has successfully ported a 1.5.2 server to 1.6.4)

 

I "upgraded" a server from Forge/MC 1.5.2 using TekkitMain as a base but with a ton more mods (135 total) up to 1.6.4. It took a bit of tweaking and some crashes related to items and such that just wouldn't map (specifically recipes in my ME MAC) but everything's been fine since then. This was on a SMP server.

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I "upgraded" a server from Forge/MC 1.5.2 using TekkitMain as a base but with a ton more mods (135 total) up to 1.6.4. It took a bit of tweaking and some crashes related to items and such that just wouldn't map (specifically recipes in my ME MAC) but everything's been fine since then. This was on a SMP server.

 

Yea we could have probably done that too but we were too far endgame and like you went up to 135 mods we just opted to start fresh. it was just easier. have to really know how to read crash logs to do that, not something for the faint of heart

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