Stone Rhino

And if my memory serves me right, isn't FTB still using bukkit core?

See, I have no idea what this whole fiasco that was mentioned is about. I could care less about politics and internal struggles. The issue stands. Keep the server safe from those that wish it harm, and keep it simple at doing so. This is not about MY convenience, but the enjoyment of those who play. If you cannot keep it safe, then what happens is that your players go elsewhere.

I want to reply to this, but I dont have to. I love people who think "Only thing I HAVE to do is die and pay taxes!". You're detracting from the point. Please keep on topic.

More so than you realize. Their command list is incomplete on GitHub. I had to type out all the commands into a document from the console by doing /help <number>. There are duplicate commands, some that already are handled by the vanilla core, but conflict with the ForgeEssentials. For example, /gamemode does not allow me to set other peoples game modes by using the vanilla syntax. So the only way for the others to get this, is to make them an op, then let them do the command, and revoke op. Like hell that's happening. Lack of permission description and information on the ForgeEssentials page. I'm sure they're busy crushing bugs atm, but no list of perm's at all? Not even one? Tux2's permission thread is simple at best, and offers minimal insight as to why I'm giving permission to each of those commands. So, I'm going off of Tux2's permissions for each group. It'd be great to get a java app that would churn out these three files for you (Yes I'm lazy), so all you have to do is paste and start the server back up.

So I've been a mega fan of tekkit ever since I discovered it. I have a few comments since the release of TKT Lite. Please read all of it before you start flame-rage-trolling. I'm fully aware that this was just released and lots of plugins are still in beta. FTB seems more interested in making promo vids rather than update their code, hence why I stuck with Tekkit, but because of players leaving my server to go to FTB/TKT-L, my hand is forced to update just to keep what few people remain. For the Tekkit Crew: Tekkit Lite feels horribly rushed: As a matter of fact it feels as if it was never meant to exist with the amount of incompleteness that I am seeing. With 1.5 coming out, what are you going to do now? Sit on your hands like all the other modders and pray it fixes itself? Again, I understand that these plugins are beta. If Lite is beta as well, it too needs to be marked that way. Where's bukkit?: There's something missing. Bukkit. So now lots of plugins don't work properly. I had intended to install Essentials, but Forge comes with this now and its a horrible replacement. Sure there are workarounds, but it's not going to be the same. The community does not want to write your documentation!: How are we supposed to know how it works if you don't? I'm talking to you ForgeEssentials team. Not everyone understands Java/J++ or whatever it is. Thanks to Tux2 for his insight on the permissions problems. For the General Public: Q: "Why doesnt my world work on lite?" / "Why is my 3.1.2 world screwed up on lite?" A: Because of the plugin changes and the ID shifts, it will be impossible for you to import it without deleting any reference to old ID's. This means that large pieces of your world will go away. There's a reason why its a completely different installation, it's not compatible. Lots of work will have to be done to get it to work properly. Q: "Where's forestry? Can I haz plz?" A: Its not coming back. So please stop asking the tekkit folks and go yell at the mod author for being <#Insert epithet or insult here>.