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One difference Kaker Mix, I'm not joking. I thought it was Cheap Shot who double posted the second time ... unless cheapshot and beer are the same person? At least, that's how it appeared on my screen.

Nice try, cheap shot, but it doesn't hold true with the way that the name is being used here. When combined with the "Stupid Newbie" picture, the overall impression is that the name is being used as an insult.

My keller status was lifted by a decision from one of the mods after I traded insults with someone in another thread. Ah. Rules that aren't written down even. This isn't looking good for the reputations of some moderators. So ... you commit a transgression, you earn a number of points, you're not told that you've transgressed; you just get hit with being defamed out of the blue. Way to moderate a board and earn respect!

...and I was going to ask why kitty got a warning instead of kellered, but apparently double posting isn't actually in the rules.

Oh ... right ... so you defame people on their first transgression. Wow. What a forum.

And what, exactly, came from your side of the street in terms of respect? Where are those warning notices? None coming. Looks like someone was over handy with your own rules and kellered me without giving me the three strikes and warnings. By the way, Beer, when I asked for the keller to be removed, it wasn't. And that's just the only thing in your post that stood out to me; once I read that, I knew the rest of your post was not worth reading.

I will be talking with my solicitors about this on Monday, yes. I was going to send a gentle e-mail to the domain owner, but as it is protected then I'm going to have to go the legal route, just to find out who they are.

Yes - because e-mail addresses, like forum handles, don't always match up. eg. [email protected] In order to have a successful action for defamation the victim would need to show that: * The statement itself was defamatory. This means that the statement would be likely to lower the person concerned in the estimation of what a Court would call "right thinking people". A mere insult is insufficient. * That these statements had been communicated to a third person. If someone had simply insulted someone to their face this would not entitle them to sue. * That it would be possible to identify the individual from the statements. All three have been achieved here. I have been defamed. That is the definition as held by my solicitor - http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/ltext/defamation.htm - how you can define calling someone Hellen Keller a positive is a wonder that isn't immediately apparent to those who haven't shared your thoughts on the subject. As for the statement that no one cares, well, the modders might care because this is one less donator. And the owner of the domain might start to have a care, because I'll be talking with my solicitor Monday.

Labelling me hellen keller is defamation. I have been defamed. You're saying that I haven't, doesn't make it less so. Signing my post must have taken me straight from 0 to 3 warning points, without me actually being warned on those three times. So, what is the good of a warning system if people aren't actually warned of things? Go on ... pull out the three warnings I received before I was hellen kellered for the first time. No, you didn't shorten my quote, you insulted me. If respect is earned, then you have earned no respect from me. It is a two way street. It also includes tolerance, because people are, after all, human. And also, being realistic, there's no reason to demand that people don't sign their posts. I do it every day in letters and e-mails. Why should you expect people to be different here, and in fact, punish them for being so?

Being labelled "Hellen Keller" is defamation of character. That's actionable for a start. Second, my "hellen keller" status was lifted. Say what you like, but a cynic would note that it was shortly after an announcement that I'd donated money to the mods. Third, I've got my areas of expertese. Java isn't one of them. I have a job to keep down, a house to maintain ... in short, I have a life away from the keyboard. I also run other servers like L2J. I don't have the time to know the current status of bugs in this system .... so when I update the server and get errors, I post there first because odds are that I missed some writings and did something wrong. ... and for that, I get defamed. Let's face it, I was called Hellen Keller simply for signing my post! Being realistic, people end up on so many forums that it's impossible to remember all the rules that each of them employ. People also have off days, we're human. Life is busy and full of trouble. Sticking such a label on people is childish and hurtful beyond belief. And the fact that you seem to think that it's somehow valid to insult people, by landing them with such a moniker, says a lot about the lack of maturity of the people who administer this board. Your level of disrespect for others, and yourself, by even inserting "wah wah" in my quote ... (in fact, you didn't even quote me at all, you just took the opportunity for another insult.) man, you kids must still be rug rats.

And how, exactly, am I to know that this is a bug? Well, now you can also ban me from the boards for profanity, because you can all go screw yourself. Tollerance on this board is so short and insults so free flowing that I've been insulted here for the last time. I'm not giving any more money to the mods and that's me finished with this boards petty bull shit. You three year olds can keep your childish behaviour and just be careful not to trip over the ribbon from your dummies when you're crawling around on the forum floor, hitting people with your little plastic toy hammers.

OK - whomever posted that I'd been warned on this post - http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/server-start-problem.20422/ - there's nothing in my in box about this. Can the forum owner take a look at the admin that did this please and then PM me? I'm so hacked off now that people can forget any future donations from me. I'm now hacked off and going back to vanilla.

Hi Folks, I downloaded 3.1.2, (I had already updated to the 1.2.5 engine and run the mappings, working fine with the exception of a bug with the deployer and the water bottle) and I'm getting the following error on start up ... 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [iNFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.2.5 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [iNFO] Attempting early MinecraftForge initialization 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [iNFO] Completed early MinecraftForge initialization 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [iNFO] Forge Mod Loader version 2.2.91.173 for Minecraft 1.2.5 loading 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [FINE] Attempting to load mods contained in the minecraft jar file and associated classes 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [FINE] Minecraft is a file at /home/data/l2jserver/tekkit2/Tekkit2.jar, loading 2012-08-11 20:59:50 [FINE] Found a mod class net.minecraft.server.mod_MinecraftForge in file Tekkit2.jar, attempting to load it ...... 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] Mod pre-initialization complete 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] Verifying mod dependencies are satisfied 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] All dependencies are satisfied 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] Sorting mods into an ordered list 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] Sorted mod list: 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_CodeChickenCore: CodeChickenCore-Bukkit 0.5.3r3.zip (before:*) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_CodeChickenCore: codechickencore-server-0.5.2-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip (before:*) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_MinecraftForge: Tekkit2.jar () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_BuildCraftTransport: buildcraft-2.2.14-mcpc1.2.5-r8.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_AdditionalPipes: AdditionalPipes-2.1.3-MCPC1.2.5-r3.zip (after:mod_BuildCraftTransport) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] Balkon's WeaponMod: BalkonsWeaponMod1.2.5.jar () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerLogic: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerLighting: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerWiring: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerCore: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerMachine: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerWorld: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_ComputerCraft: server (after:mod_RedPowerCore;after:mod_RedPowerArray;after:mod_RedPowerLighting;after:mod_RedPowerLogic;after:mod_RedPowerMachine;after:mod_RedPowerWiring;after:mod_RedPowerWorld) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_CCTurtle: server (after:mod_ComputerCraft;after:mod_RedPowerCore;after:mod_RedPowerArray;after:mod_RedPowerLighting;after:mod_RedPowerLogic;after:mod_RedPowerMachine;after:mod_RedPowerWiring;after:mod_RedPowerWorld) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_CraftingTableIII: CraftingTable3_1.8.jar () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_EE: EE2ServerV1.4.6.5-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5-r5.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_EnderStorage: EnderStorage-Bukkit 1.1.3r2.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_NotEnoughItems: NotEnoughItems-Bukkit 1.2.2.3r3.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_BuildCraftEnergy: buildcraft-2.2.14-mcpc1.2.5-r8.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_BuildCraftCore: buildcraft-2.2.14-mcpc1.2.5-r8.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_IC2: industrialcraft2-1.97-mcpc1.2.5-r7.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_PowerConverters: PowerConverters-1.3.4-mcpc78-r1.zip (after:mod_BuildCraftCore;after:mod_BuildCraftEnergy;after:mod_IC2) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_Railcraft: Railcraft-5.3.3-MCPC-1.2.5-r8.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_WirelessRedstoneCore: wrcbe-core-server-1.2.1-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_WirelessRedstoneAddons: WR-CBE Addons-Bukkit 1.2.2.3.zip (after:mod_WirelessRedstoneCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_WirelessRedstoneCore: WR-CBE Core-Bukkit 1.2.2.3r2.zip.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_WirelessRedstoneRedPower: WR-CBE RedPower-Bukkit 1.2.2.1.zip (after:mod_WirelessRedstoneCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_IC2AdvancedMachines: advancedMachines_4.0_bukkit.zip (after:mod_IC2) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_BuildCraftFactory: buildcraft-2.2.14-mcpc1.2.5-r8.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_BuildCraftBuilders: buildcraft-2.2.14-mcpc1.2.5-r8.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_ccSensors: server (after:mod_ComputerCraft;after:mod_BuildCraftFactory;after:mod_IC2;after:mod_RedPowerMachine) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_EnderStorage: enderstorage-server-1.1.1-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_ImmibisCore: immibis-core_49.1.1_for_1.2.5-bukkit.jar () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_ImmibisCore: zimmibis-core48.2.1-tubestuff-48.2.1-mcpc1.2.5-r1.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_ModularForceFieldSystem: mffs_rev7_for_1.2.5-bukkit.zip (after:mod_IC2;after:mod_ImmibisCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_IC2NuclearControl: mod_IC2NuclearControl-1.1.10b-mcpc-r1.zip (after:mod_IC2) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_NetherOres: mod_NetherOres.jar (after:mod_IC2;after:mod_RedPowerCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_IC2_ChargingBench: mod_chargingbench-server-1.95b-mcpc1.2.5-r2.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_CompactSolars: mod_compactsolars-server-2.3.2.10-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip (after:mod_IC2) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_IronChest: mod_ironchests-server-3.8.0.40-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_NotEnoughItems: notenoughitems-server-1.2.1-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_RedPowerControl: redpower-all-2.0p5b2-mcpc1.2.5-r15.zip () 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_TubeStuff: tubestuff_49.1.2_for_1.2.5-bukkit.jar (after:mod_ImmibisCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_WirelessRedstoneAddons: wrcbe-addons-server-1.2.1-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip (after:mod_WirelessRedstoneCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_WirelessRedstoneRedPower: wrcbe-redpower-server-1.2.1.1-bukkit-mcpc-1.2.5.zip (after:mod_WirelessRedstoneCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_ImmiChunkLoaders: zdimensional-anchor_rev3.2_for_1.2.5-bukkit.jar (after:mod_ImmibisCore;) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [FINE] mod_TubeStuff: zimmibis-core48.2.1-tubestuff-48.2.1-mcpc1.2.5-r1.zip (after:mod_ImmibisCore) 2012-08-11 20:59:52 [iNFO] Loading properties ...... 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] RedPowerCore: MinecraftForge minor version mismatch, expecting 3.1.x, may lead to unexpected behavior 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Railcraft IC2 Module: Tin detected, adding Energy Detector recipe: id={0} 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINE] Starting BuildCraft 2.2.14 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINE] Copyright © SpaceToad, 2011 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINE] http://www.mod-buildcraft.com 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] Starting BuildCraft 2.2.14 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] Copyright © SpaceToad, 2011 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] http://www.mod-buildcraft.com 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_IC2AdvancedMachines 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_BuildCraftFactory 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_BuildCraftBuilders 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_ccSensors 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] CONFLICT @ 1237 item slot already occupied by ccSensors.shared.ItemWiFiTransmitter@193e3d0 while adding ccSensors.shared.ItemWiFiTransmitter@51a0c9 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] CONFLICT @ -41 item slot already occupied by ccSensors.shared.ItemComputerSensorBlock@ad8bf3 while adding net.minecraft.server.ItemBlock@1bf353c 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: Buildcraft 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: IndustrialCraft2 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: Forestry 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: mod_Forestry not found - SensorModule is disabled. 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: RedPower2 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: EquivalentExchange 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: APS 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: mod_BuildcraftAPS not found - SensorModule is disabled. 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: Loading SensorModule: APS 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] [ccSensors] INFO: mod_ThaumCraft not found - SensorModule is disabled. 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_EnderStorage 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_ImmibisCore 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_ImmibisCore 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_ModularForceFieldSystem 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_IC2NuclearControl 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_NetherOres 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_IC2_ChargingBench 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_CompactSolars 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [iNFO] CompactSolars: MinecraftForge minor version mismatch, expecting 3.2.x, may lead to unexpected behavior 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_IronChest 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] Initializing mod_NotEnoughItems 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [FINER] THROW java.lang.IllegalStateException: ID: 0 already mapped. at codechicken.core.PacketCustom.assignHandler(PacketCustom.java:473) at net.minecraft.server.mod_NotEnoughItems.load(mod_NotEnoughItems.java:28) at cpw.mods.fml.common.modloader.ModLoaderModContainer.init(ModLoaderModContainer.java:351) at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.modInit(Loader.java:263) at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:618) at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLBukkitHandler.onLoadComplete(FMLBukkitHandler.java:142) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.init(MinecraftServer.java:176) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:438) at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: ID: 0 already mapped. 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLBukkitHandler.raiseException(FMLBukkitHandler.java:270) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ModLoader.throwException(ModLoader.java:765) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at codechicken.core.PacketCustom.assignHandler(PacketCustom.java:473) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.mod_NotEnoughItems.load(mod_NotEnoughItems.java:28) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.modloader.ModLoaderModContainer.init(ModLoaderModContainer.java:351) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.modInit(Loader.java:263) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:618) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLBukkitHandler.onLoadComplete(FMLBukkitHandler.java:142) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.init(MinecraftServer.java:176) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:438) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492) 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: ID: 0 already mapped. 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] ... 9 more 2012-08-11 20:59:54 [sEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: ID: 0 already mapped. at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLBukkitHandler.raiseException(FMLBukkitHandler.java:270) at net.minecraft.server.ModLoader.throwException(ModLoader.java:765) at codechicken.core.PacketCustom.assignHandler(PacketCustom.java:473) at net.minecraft.server.mod_NotEnoughItems.load(mod_NotEnoughItems.java:28) at cpw.mods.fml.common.modloader.ModLoaderModContainer.init(ModLoaderModContainer.java:351) at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.modInit(Loader.java:263) at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:618) at cpw.mods.fml.server.FMLBukkitHandler.onLoadComplete(FMLBukkitHandler.java:142) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.init(MinecraftServer.java:176) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:438) at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492) Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: ID: 0 already mapped. ... 9 more Any ideas please?

Tested in the original location, and it failed.

Hi Jorty, I'm over 2.5k away from spawn. But it is a good question, I'll go back to a previous area where it worked and try it there to see what happens.

Thanks Beer, I've been thinking for a while since you're last post. I want to invest in a world and if bits of these worlds keep breaking on upgrades, then I can't invest. Guess I'm going to have to slum it with vanilla from now on. Cheers for the honest attempts to help me. Much appreciated.

Does anyone have any further info please?

Anyone got any ideas please? I've checked that the Radion drivers are loaded correctly and test fine.

Hi Folks, You can always trust me to come up with the good ones. I've bought a Fit PC 3 Pro - http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc3-info/ - 4gig of RAM, Radeon card, running the latest Mint 64 bit and Java 7 64 bit. With the standard Minecraft client connecting to my Craftbukkit server, I have no issues. With the latest stable build of Tekkit connencting to my Tekkit server, I have real problems. I am lucky if the chunks load around me, very slowly, and some don't load at all; so I can be in a room that consists of, say four chunks square, and half the room doesn't load, or maybe the ceiling. I've tried deleting the .technic folder and letting it re-download everything, but no luck. Both clients are using the same version of java. This is a picture of a room which should be completely made of marble, with some crystal chests - The server is already on view distance 7.

Hi Folks, Have been digging a rail track very close to bedrock, one wide and two high - so far, no slimes have appeared that far down. There is nothing on the wikis I've read about a lower limit. Is there one please?

A good idea. I tried it, but they up and vanish completely. Chests at either side, but none of them collected a bottle. They also didn't end up near the water, either. One thing I'm going to try is lowering the water in relation to the deployer and see if that helps. Nope - the bottles stayed in the deployer, but didn't fill with water.

Thanks for the effort - but it didn't work. The bottles still vanish from the dispenser. I did check the inventories and the sorting buttons had gone so the mod didn't load.

According to this, it might not be present in Tekkit - http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/how-do-you-disable-convenient-inventory-from-tekkit-technic.11136/

I can't actually find it. What file am I looking for please, and is it client, server, or both.

Nope, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion; much appreciated.