Jay? Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You have to remember people. The internet isn't a virtual American state. There are no apple pies and good ol' boys here. Just cold swift authority and Intolerance for morons and weird idiots. I would move here if i could. I'm allergic to apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard123 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Actually until you are 18 you have no rights. Your parents basically own you so it is what they say goes. The same thing is true if you go to a private school, since you pay to go there you have to follow all there rules. *Ahem* Convention on the Rights of a Child I called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Administrators KakerMix Posted March 5, 2012 Forum Administrators Share Posted March 5, 2012 Goober, you're an odd one. Plus I bet this is in the wrong board. Personally, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to speak in third person. But whatevs. My troll senses are tingling though... a lot. Because this is a tyrant state under the cold steel boot of authorty! also the boot is p. cool its got these bithchin buckels and shit on it its totally radmaxmium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 *Ahem* Convention on the Rights of a Child I called it. Not sure what you mean with "i called it." Also I'm not gonna read that right now since it looks over 100 words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Actually until you are 18 you have no rights. Your parents basically own you so it is what they say goes. The same thing is true if you go to a private school, since you pay to go there you have to follow all there rules. That's ridiculous. You have all the same rights. It's just that the school has the right to expel you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay? Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That's ridiculous. You have all the same rights. It's just that the school has the right to expel you as well. Which fits in pretty well with the topic at hand. goober has just as much right to speak in the third person as the technic staff do to ban him for it. Why is this still a topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That's ridiculous. You have all the same rights. It's just that the school has the right to expel you as well. If you pay them to be there you give up your rights. You aren't allowed a gun, you can't have free speech all the time, any rights they have they give you. A school could make it you have to be catholic to go there and it is legal because you pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkthegamer Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Which fits in pretty well with the topic at hand. goober has just as much right to speak in the third person as the technic staff do to ban him for it. Why is this still a topic? My guess is because the discussion has been interesting and it is a decent alternative to responding to "TMI not working, plz help" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If you pay them to be there you give up your rights. You aren't allowed a gun, you can't have free speech all the time, any rights they have they give you. A school could make it you have to be catholic to go there and it is legal because you pay them. Wrong on all accounts. The school cannot make you be catholic and you have all the same rights. It just has the right to kick you out for not following its rules. What on earth would make you think a school can circumvent the constitution when not even the supreme court can. The school has the right to expel you from the premises and that's it. You still have free speech within the premises but they have the freedom to kick you out for not following the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Wrong on all accounts. The school cannot make you be catholic and you have all the same rights. It just has the right to kick you out for not following its rules. What on earth would make you think a school can circumvent the constitution when not even the supreme court can. The school has the right to expel you from the premises and that's it. You still have free speech within the premises but they have the freedom to kick you out for not following the rules. I never said they would make you catholic I said you can't go there unless you are catholic. I'm guessing you went to public school because there you have all your rights. In a private school you only have rights they give you. If they say no talking you can't talk. If they say no jewish people a jewish person can't go there. I they say no guns, well then it is no guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I never said they would make you catholic I said you can't go there unless you are catholic. I'm guessing you went to public school because there you have all your rights. In a private school you only have rights they give you. If they say no talking you can't talk. If they say no jewish people a jewish person can't go there. I they say no guns, well then it is no guns. You can voluntarily choose not exercise those rights in order to go to the school but the school can't take them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You can voluntarily choose not exercise those rights in order to go to the school but the school can't take them away. Not sure what you are trying to say it seems like there was a typo. The way it works is once you go inside they school building it becomes there rules not America's or where ever you live. They can give you certain rights and take them away, but you have to pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Not sure what you are trying to say it seems like there was a typo. The way it works is once you go inside they school building it becomes there rules not America's or where ever you live. They can give you certain rights and take them away, but you have to pay them. Do you even know what rights are? They are protection to you from prosecution by the government. Freedom of speech for example protects you from being jailed for expressing an opinion. The school cannot take away this right. They cannot have you thrown in jail for expressing an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Do you even know what rights are? They are protection to you from prosecution by the government. Freedom of speech for example protects you from being jailed for expressing an opinion. The school cannot take away this right. They cannot have you thrown in jail for expressing an opinion. It has nothing to do with jail. It means are you able to do something without repercussions. You get a parking ticket not thrown in jail. At a school you get thrown out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That has nothing to do with you losing a right. It just means that the school has the right to kick you out of its own private property. Just like I can kick you out of my house whenever I feel like it. It doesn't mean you signed away your right to free speech when entering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That has nothing to do with you losing a right. It just means that the school has the right to kick you out of its own private property. Just like I can kick you out of my house whenever I feel like it. It doesn't mean you signed away your right to free speech when entering. Ok let me put it this way, the fourth amendment says you need a warrant to search something. In school a teacher can go in your locker if they feel like it, they don't need a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard123 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 A locker is not your property though, unless you buy the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Ok they can search you and your bag also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 School personal cannot search you or your bag without a warrant. You can voluntarily submit to a search however and they can no doubt kick you out for refusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If they say empty your bag and pockets you either do it or get kicked out exactly what you said, so you gave up the right of privacy. If a police officer came up to you on the street you could just say no, with nothing negative happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You can tell them no and just walk away. Because you have the right. If a police officer with a warrant tells you to empty your bags then you do not have the right to walk away. That a school has the right to decide who can and cannot be on their private property does not rob you of any factual rights. You still have every right as granted by the constitution and bill of rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 No you can say no, but you will be expelled. That is a repercussion. Telling an unwarranted police officer no does nothing. In the streets they need a purpose in a school they don't and can punish you for saying no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Your definition of "Not having rights" is ridiculous. If they could not expel you from a private property at will. That would be a serious violation of rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 California is the only sate with a law protecting students rights. When you apply for a school your parents who currently own your rights sign most of them away to the school while you are there. We are also talking about a private school. In private school your rights are governed by contract law. Also "In Loco Parentis" also gives away your rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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