Buildcraft or Redpower - Which do you prefer?

[sancarn]

Says it all in the title =D

Do you like buildcraft pipes or redpower tubes?

Do you build your quarries using redpower frames or buildcraft blocks?

I'm just curious really =)

[DanielJin]

Generally I like to use redpower for most of my builds, it is in my opinion that redpower tubes are much simpler for designs, unlike buildcraft pipes, they never overflow items and it have color coding which makes it really easy to build sorting systems.

As for quarries, I usually use buildcraft quarries, it's much simpler to set up and needs less resources, but I won't mind build a redpower one for free quarrying.

[sancarn]

Generally I like to use redpower for most of my builds, it is in my opinion that redpower tubes are much simpler for designs, unlike buildcraft pipes, they never overflow items and it have color coding which makes it really easy to build sorting systems.

As for quarries, I usually use buildcraft quarries, it's much simpler to set up and needs less resources, but I won't mind build a redpower one for free quarrying.

I have to say I am pretty much the same. I've always considered redpower tubes to be much more efficient and effective than buildcraft pipes. And I am the same. I will either program a mine turtle to quarry for me or a bc quarry just because they require less time. Mining turtle quarries are surprisingly fast too!

[Lothos]

i need to learn about redpower tubes and turtles still :(

[fidchelle]

I like to use both or get a good mix. Sometimes I will use build craft in my designs. Sometimes red-power. Sometimes a combination of the two.

Also I can't believe I haven't been kellered yet!

I remember one time I was trying to get the distribution of items down to an exact science but distribution pipes would do it a stack at a time because the red-power tubes would pull them out of inventories a stack at a time. So I putt a timer next to a dispenser connected to a tube in order to shoot items one by one rapidly into a water-stream with an obsidian pipe at the end... This added items to the line one by one instead of a stack at a time which made the distribution system work the way I needed it too.

It also looked very cool....

This is just one example of many of how I used build-craft and red-power pipes/machines in the same design. Its the best of all worlds, like being tri-sexual.

[sancarn]

i need to learn about redpower tubes and turtles still

Redpower is actually very simple. Computercraft and turtles are harder than I thought they would be. It really expects you to already know how to program which is a pain but after spending a day or 2 focusing on it you get the hang of a couple of basics =). Even trying to make your turtle move forward is pretty tricky to start off with. The best thing is don't have anything to elaborate in mind when you start off with.

Its the best of all worlds' date=' like being tri-sexual. [/quote']

LOL! Hilarious. For that I'd probably use redpower transposers and item detectors and some logic but that is a very creative way of doing it! =)

[Neowulf]

BC piping is cheaper, RP tubes can get whole stacks flowing easier.

I prefer both, since they have different strengths and weaknesses.

As for quarries, mining turtles with a filter unloader setup.

[Lothos]

how easy is it to convert a sorting warehouse setup from using BC pipes to redpower tubes? Or if I should even bother starting with pipes...I'm presently building the structure right now.

[Industrial Miner]

Simple. Pipes .

[sancarn]

how easy is it to convert a sorting warehouse setup from using BC pipes to redpower tubes? Or if I should even bother starting with pipes...I'm presently building the structure right now.

pipes work off a very different concept to tubes. Pipes transport items in any random direction they can go. Tubes always flow to the closest inventory. The great thing about tubes is that they are a constant cost and sorting machines are easier to come by than diamond pipes. Tubes use up more materials in general yet pipe sorting uses more diamonds. Tubes are also a bit more flexible in the sense that the sorting machines send out items in only 1 direction where as the diamond pipes send different types of items in different directions.

Converting a system from pipes to tubes is harder than one would think just because the different pipes are very different in the way they transport items. If you've started with pipes it'd probably be better to carry on using them unless you want to completely redesign the whole thing. In the end though I think redpower stuff can end up more compact because you can colour tubes so they don't mix and you can put covers/panels between pipes and wiring where as pipes just mingle. Though each are impressive in there own right.

[Lothos]

i dont have anything built yet, so its fine. I was merely wondering from a startup cost if it might be cheaper to go with pipes first and then convert.

[angeldoom22]

I feel Redpower is better For Items, but Buildcraft has the better Liquid Pipes

[warpspeed10]

I currently find redpower tubes nicer to use. When buildcraft 3 and the pipe logic gates and redpipe signaling comes out, there may be more incentive to use buildcraft pipes.

[sancarn]

i dont have anything built yet, so its fine. I was merely wondering from a startup cost if it might be cheaper to go with pipes first and then convert.

It really depends how many diamonds you can muster. If you have plentiful diamonds then pipes are probably the way to go. If you don't want to waste your diamonds then you should probably go with redpower.

Also I have to agree with angeldoom22 it seems very much like build craft is much better for liquids than redpower is.

[Lothos]

i guess it may come down to space. I'm trying to use the 3 block wide space in my castle wall to house my storage chests. I got 4 blocks in height to work with and more than enough in length.

[okamikk]

I, personally, prefer redpower.

[BuccaneerRex]

I tend to mix and match. I use tubes for sorting, because I like being able to paint the tube and use sorters. but buildcraft is far superior for autocrafting. I can't stand how slow the autocrafter mk2 is. If I have a lot of things to craft quickly, i can put 5 wooden pipes/engines on a single autocrafter and pump items out like crazy.

[sancarn]

i guess it may come down to space. I'm trying to use the 3 block wide space in my castle wall to house my storage chests. I got 4 blocks in height to work with and more than enough in length.

redpower is probably what you want to use then.

I tend to mix and match. I use tubes for sorting, because I like being able to paint the tube and use sorters. but buildcraft is far superior for autocrafting. I can't stand how slow the autocrafter mk2 is. If I have a lot of things to craft quickly, i can put 5 wooden pipes/engines on a single autocrafter and pump items out like crazy.

I still haven't used the auto-craftingtable mk2. However I heads Eloraam may be adding her own take on the automatic crafting table which we can assume will be much faster than any auto crafting table we have so far! But we'll see what she comes up with. Turtles and computers may also have that option in the future seen as they are going down the fully automated item transportation systems now =)

[Jaanko]

I HIGHLY prefer RP over BC for 95% of my tasks. Some of the things I use bc for are liquid transportation, long distance item transportation (if "BC" also includes tele pipes addon). BC is also useful for using with Forestry, one of my favorite mods.

About your question on the quarries, it is simple. Frame quarry! Why? Because frame quarries

-don't need power

-a lot more efficient

-mobile

-doesn't leave behind ugly orange frame that takes years to break

-can be made huge

-look cooler, and are funner :D

[BuccaneerRex]

redpower is probably what you want to use then.

I still haven't used the auto-craftingtable mk2. However I heads Eloraam may be adding her own take on the automatic crafting table which we can assume will be much faster than any auto crafting table we have so far! But we'll see what she comes up with. Turtles and computers may also have that option in the future seen as they are going down the fully automated item transportation systems now =)

I'm not sure I entirely approve of computers in minecraft. I know, I know, don't use them if I don't like them. I just think that it sort of defeats the purpose of making elaborate machines and control systems if you can just one-block solve all your issues with some offline programming.

Now if someone let me use redpower logic tiles with the little blocks mod... that would be something to write home about.

[angeldoom22]

Another Benefit of RP is that covers and tubes are compatible to share the same block area, making it possible for tubing in 1 block thick walls. I wish also there would be an update that makes BC pipes and IC cables compatible with sharing block space for covers

[Neowulf]

IC2 cables can be covered with construction foam then painted. Not as many texture choices, but it's better than nothing and more explosion resistant.

[Jaanko]

Ooo you can construction foam IC cables? Learnin' somethin' er' day. ;)

[sancarn]

I'm not sure I entirely approve of computers in minecraft. I know, I know, don't use them if I don't like them. I just think that it sort of defeats the purpose of making elaborate machines and control systems if you can just one-block solve all your issues with some offline programming.

Now if someone let me use redpower logic tiles with the little blocks mod... that would be something to write home about.

Haha I suppose this is true =P But for automation purposes I think it can be excused because in the end the redpower sorting machine for example is pretty much a computer which checks items etc. A lot of things in redpower are specialised computers like this. But the difference is if you try to make a sorting system with computer craft turtles it's going to be a lot harder than with redpower though I believe it's much more visually appealing to see turtles which move about with items. That's my opinion anyway =)

Another Benefit of RP is that covers and tubes are compatible to share the same block area, making it possible for tubing in 1 block thick walls. I wish also there would be an update that makes BC pipes and IC cables compatible with sharing block space for covers

I agree. I wonder if there will be an update making pipes fit with covers? I think I saw Eloraam post that there would have to be a complete re-write of the code to make them compatible. Though this may have just been for her to make covers compatible with pipes and not the other way round.

[okamikk]

I agree. I wonder if there will be an update making pipes fit with covers? I think I saw Eloraam post that there would have to be a complete re-write of the code to make them compatible. Though this may have just been for her to make covers compatible with pipes and not the other way round.

Sadly, no, she would have to include a complete rewrite of the pipes to make them compatible with covers and the such. This is all good and fancy if you're just using RP2 with BC3, but you try using any addons for buildcraft, it goes to fucktown before you can say "oh sheeeeet!"

EDIT: Also, IC2 would need a complete rewrite, so that machines accept new rewritten cables. same as above,lots of effort to make, incompatibillity with any addon that isn't rewritten to accomodate the rewrite of the core mod.