andrewdonshik Posted September 23, 2012 Author Posted September 23, 2012 He broke my whole house and everything inside which includes: Wooden house made of 3-5 stacks of wood. Transmutation tablet. Batbox. Wiring. Macerator. Electric Furnace. Compressor. Extractor. Solar Panels. Chests. As you can see, this takes some time to make, and it constitutes as major griefing. That was the point I was trying to make.
gavjenks Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Andrew said to ONLY BREAK DOWN THE MILK MACHINE. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. Actually, Andrew did not say that. He didn't even know about it until after it was destroyed. At which point I said in chat that i had freed an abused cow, and that I had also destroyed the wooden building used to make the milking machine. At which point, Andrew said, and I quote, "lol." He broke my whole house and everything inside which includes: Wooden house made of 3-5 stacks of wood. Transmutation tablet. Batbox. Wiring. Macerator. Electric Furnace. Compressor. Extractor. Solar Panels. Chests. Every one of the things you listed there (other than the wood) was intact when I left. If they were gone later, then they were stolen by the other person who flew by later on and said they had found the place, not me.
andrewdonshik Posted September 23, 2012 Author Posted September 23, 2012 Actually, Andrew did not say that. He didn't even know about it until after it was destroyed. At which point I said in chat that i had freed an abused cow, and that I had also destroyed the wooden building used to make the milking machine. At which point, Andrew said, and I quote, "lol." I said lol to the freed an abused cow part, not the wooden house part.
Mooseman9 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Ugh, Gavjenks, I said you could take down the cow milker, not all his stuff. *grumble*. Actually, Andrew did not say that. Wut?
gavjenks Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Oh also, that milking machine was putting out about 400 EMC/second, which means it was generating "3-5 stacks of wood" approximately every... 4 seconds... lol. You have some serious, serious issues if losing 4 seconds' worth of your time is enough to provoke you to tell somebody to "eat shit and die like a dog." (a sentence which, by the way, probably takes around 4 seconds to write).
superg2009 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 will you guys drop this lame crap its absolutely retarded and we get it and is it really worth it
nightrage Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 im staying out of the greifing conversation but i would like the server to stay because besides the few bad apples we have found everybody is good to play with
superg2009 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 im with nightrage make a smaller community we have had bad apples but do you like playing with us and stuff ps your brother is weird
andrewdonshik Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 im with nightrage make a smaller community we have had bad apples but do you like playing with us and stuff ps your brother is weird He is.. I really don't want to run this anymore. I'm freaking tired of putting whole days into this and having it blown up by a freaking griefer.
gavjenks Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 I'd love to have the server keep going. it is a good group. However, I don't think it's worth it without rollback plugins. Griefing has been so extensive and so quick and common that there is absolutely no reason to believe it won't happen again almost immediately, every time you restart. Which is frankly not surprising at all. That is the case on pretty much every server in minecraft that sits around without any protections. Which would not give us any chance to get anything worthwhile built and going, and just end in frustration and lameness. With rollbacks, we only lose a few hours or work at most, and weed out another bad apple... allowing the server to continue without constant tedious restarts. If you need help setting up the plugins, I'm sure many of us would be able to assist, including myself. There are very easy to use, dedicated plugins for bukkit to do exactly this. All you need is one auto backup program that will keep, say, 2 copies of the server a day for 3 days back or so. Then worldedit. That's about it. Using it is simple too. Sure, panels and covers and stuff wont replace correctly. Your MFSU might lose its energy... but whatever. Don't build super intricate miniblock things on a survival server, and you'll be fine with a rollback (chest contents should be fine, btw)
andrewdonshik Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 I'd love to have the server keep going. it is a good group. However, I don't think it's worth it without rollback plugins. Griefing has been so extensive and so quick and common that there is absolutely no reason to believe it won't happen again almost immediately, every time you restart. Which would not give us any chance to get anything worthwhile built and going, and just end in frustration and lameness. With rollbacks, we only lose a few hours or work at most, and weed out another bad apple... allowing the server to continue without constant tedious restarts. If you need help setting up the plugins, I'm sure many of us would be able to assist, including myself. There are very easy to use, dedicated plugins for bukkit to do exactly this. All you need is one auto backup program that will keep, say, 2 copies of the server a day for 3 days back or so. Then worldedit. That's about it. Using it is simple too. I have a backup going, just no idea where it is backing up to. Lemme see if I can find it.
gavjenks Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 In that case you should be able to use worldedit to roll back the server from the nukings a few hours ago. You don't have to have had the rollback program already on the computer. http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Snapshots Simply install worldedit. Rename the backup when you find it, to match the naming style in that link. And place it in the directory it says in the link. Then, in game, an OP can take a wooden axe, and click two opposite corners of the rectangular prism containing the area you want to roll back (one right click, one left click) Then you type "/snap use latest" (or "//restore [specific backup name]") and it will replace just those blocks with the ones from the old backup. In the case of a massive area, e.g. nuked, it might be wise to do it in a few different rectangles. I advise Worledits fewer than about 2 million blocks at a time (it tells you how many after you select the corners)
andrewdonshik Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 In that case you should be able to use worldedit to roll back the server from the nukings a few hours ago. http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Snapshots Simply rename the backup when you find it, to match the naming style in that link. And place it in the directory it says in the link. Then, in game, an OP can take a wooden axe, and click two opposite corners of the rectangular prism containing the area you want to roll back. Then you type "/snap use latest" (or "//restore [specific backup name]") and it will replace just those blocks with the ones from the old backup. Correction. I had the plugin installed, but I forgot to set the "copy" option. I feel like SUCH an idiot. A TOTAL FREAKING IDIOT.
gavjenks Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Eh, that sounds like a reasonable mistake. After all, it's a pretty stupid rollback plugin that by default doesn't roll back..... I'd be willing to restart from scratch again anyway, as long as there was some reason to believe it wouldnt be all permanently nuked again, that's all.
andrewdonshik Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 Eh, that sounds like a reasonable mistake. After all, it's a pretty stupid rollback plugin that by default doesn't roll back..... I'd be willing to restart from scratch again anyway, as long as there was some reason to believe it wouldnt be all permanently nuked again, that's all. Got it.. sorry. Might be awhile as I have school.
superg2009 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 all you have to do is deletevthe world the nether and the end folders
andrewdonshik Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 all you have to do is deletevthe world the nether and the end folders Yes, but I want to play, and I need to install and figure out some rollback plugins.
superg2009 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 i looked at the /help it had minebackup on it but get something good and that you understand fully
andrewdonshik Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 i looked at the /help it had minebackup on it but get something good and that you understand fully It works now. I just forgot a config change.
GreenWolf13 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Wow. I go to sleep and when I come back the next day, I find that this (mooseman vs. gavjenks) has happened. Let me see if I understand everything correctly: •Gavjenks griefed mooseman's cow milking machine (A cow milking machine is used to generate emc, right?) •mooseman got really pissed •We now have rollback plugins •Somebody was nuked •The server has been reset again Is this correct?
nightrage Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 server has yet to be reset and your missing one thing on the list Xchampx is banned from wiping out mine and andrews company in the 30 we were both offline doing other things and we are talking complete building wipeout after those events happend all hell broke loose when andrew op everyone who was online at the time
GreenWolf13 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 server has yet to be reset and your missing one thing on the list Xchampx is banned from wiping out mine and andrews company in the 30 we were both offline doing other things and we are talking complete building wipeout after those events happend all hell broke loose when andrew op everyone who was online at the time My only response is this quote. Shit son.
xchampx13 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 I didnt do anything, i dont know why you are accusing me at all, i didnt do a think, if i stay banned whatever but seriously i did not a think to andrews company. I couldnt even tell you were it is.
gavjenks Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Wow. I go to sleep and when I come back the next day, I find that this (mooseman vs. gavjenks) has happened. Let me see if I understand everything correctly: •Gavjenks griefed legitimately destroyed mooseman's cow milking machine (A cow milking machine is used to generate emc, right?), and griefed a small wooden shack next to it •mooseman got really pissed •We now have rollback plugins <--Andrfew's still working on it, I think. Or at least testing it or something. Hence the continued delay. •Somebody Three complete companies were was nuked to bedrock •The server has been will most likely be reset again Is this correct?
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