andrewdonshik Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Oh sorry ill play again, and am in central US time And if you're going to wipe the server, please wipe it ASAP now that it's been announced. There's very little or zero motivation to build anything on a server that has a known wipe date in the near future, so the clock is ticking, and people will begin to get bored and leave the server for good the longer it takes. From personal admin-ery experience. Does Saturday work? I want a little time for people to post time zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavjenks Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 why are we posting time zones again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Does Saturday work? I want a little time for people to post time zones. For me no. I wont be home most of Saturday or Sunday. Friday anytime works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdonshik Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 why are we posting time zones again? So I can make companies more fair. For me no. I wont be home most of Saturday or Sunday. Friday anytime works for me. Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavjenks Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Sigh, I'm really confused. 1) Why would players need to be online for a map wipe (re: mike above)? 2) Why would time zones make companies more fair? 3) What does a "fair" company even mean? It's a non competitive server... 4) Assuming it were competitive, time zones don't tell you much about who is online together. I'm in central US and mostly see dutch people since i play in the later morning and they are after dinner. 5) Why do we even have companies anyway? Most people never built with their company, and when they did, they obviously didnt want to abide by the rules of the seemingly arbitrary company CEOs anyway (for example, almost everybody using EE and almost all CEOs saying they dont like EE). Personally I'd wipe it like half an hour from now, or however long it takes to install a rollback plugin. And worry about companies later as an optional thing / whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 If no one can be on except one person, it is unfair. When we started the server it was most people on the server at the same time, andrew probably wants something similar for a restart. If you can't understand why it is best for people of the same company to be on at the same time, then I don't know what to tell you. You don't need to be part of a company, most of us like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavjenks Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 If no one can be on except one person, it is unfair. When we started the server it was most people on the server at the same time, andrew probably wants something similar for a restart. If you can't understand why it is best for people of the same company to be on at the same time, then I don't know what to tell you. You don't need to be part of a company, most of us like it. I mean fine, make companies. But why does lining people up in companies require sitting around for 3 days with dead server time (it's basically the same as not having it online for 3 days straight, which is quite awhile in minecraft)? There's no particular reason why you can't shift people around to companies as they log back on. In fact, it would be both A) more effective than asking people's timezones (since timezone doesn't say much about who you are online with, if one person likes to play at 3AM and another after dinner) AND Much easier for everybody to organize anyway. All you'd have to do is place a few simple signs at spawn, that say "Hey, you just logged on to the new server! Is this when you normally log on? If so, look up what time it is RIGHT NOW in greenwich mean time. If if is 0:01-6:00, please consider joining M-Tech. if it is 6:01-12:00, please consider joining warptech, if it is 12:01-18:00, please consider joining blobture..." In addition to having less downtime. I'm really serious about the risk of being offline for long periods of time. It is deadly to player counts, almost always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Like I said the reason for current down time is to try to get everyone on when the server starts, just like the beginning. The rest would be andrews decision, but if that is how he wants to do it, let him. This is his server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavjenks Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Like I said the reason for current down time is to try to get everyone on when the server starts, just like the beginning. The rest would be andrews decision, but if that is how he wants to do it, let him. This is his server. ?? wat. He just said that the reason for timezones was to make the companies "more fair" which presumably means making people in a company online together in general. Now you're saying the reason is so everybody can be together for a grand opening event? i don't see that mentioned anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmikegigsxx Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I said for downtime. You do know what that is, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavjenks Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 ... Alright whatever, I'm not participating in this anymore. Andrew: I personally suggest wiping the server literally as soon as possible, like however long it takes to install new mods and hit "delete" on the world files. Any extra time means more people get bored while they wait, join another server, get hooked, never come back. Getting everybody online at once for a grand opening, if that's even a real thing that's planned right now, seems not at all worth the risk, and I would personally suggest not doing that. That is all. imma go play on SSP for a new idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfodder1 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 alright guys, sorry i havent been online. (holy mooshroom, school is catching up with me!) mikegigs, i did not grief your nether Blaze XP farm. i found it, and used it for a bit. i was asking because its a real shame that XP grinder is griefed. etho makes good contraptions. andrew, my timezone is pacific standard (i think) aka Canada, British Columbia. Battle_bas, i am now catching up with all the homeworks and i will be online for now. i also think that a reset is in order. ever since i set up the UU-matter factory, life on the server has been one big misery, with nothing fun to do anymore now that i have quantum armour. also i agree with Gavjenks, the companies are stupid, because no one ever does company stuff together anymore. -cannonfodder1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed10 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I know I haven't been on much ever since college started back up, but would it be possible for you to send a copy of the old map to people who want to move their builds into their single player world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdonshik Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 I know I haven't been on much ever since college started back up, but would it be possible for you to send a copy of the old map to people who want to move their builds into their single player world? I doubt it, but maybe. Cannonfodder, don't sign your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdonshik Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Sigh, I'm really confused. 1) Why would players need to be online for a map wipe (re: mike above)? 2) Why would time zones make companies more fair? 3) What does a "fair" company even mean? It's a non competitive server... 4) Assuming it were competitive, time zones don't tell you much about who is online together. I'm in central US and mostly see dutch people since i play in the later morning and they are after dinner. 5) Why do we even have companies anyway? Most people never built with their company, and when they did, they obviously didnt want to abide by the rules of the seemingly arbitrary company CEOs anyway (for example, almost everybody using EE and almost all CEOs saying they dont like EE). Personally I'd wipe it like half an hour from now, or however long it takes to install a rollback plugin. And worry about companies later as an optional thing / whatever. Companies are the point of the server. Time zones wouldn't make them more "fair", they make it so the companies can collaborate. Reset wise, I would like to set up companies first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfodder1 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 i get your meaning. in the meantime, are we free to blow up the map with nukes? (i really want to declare nuclear war on someone with my airship and i.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdonshik Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 i get your meaning. in the meantime, are we free to blow up the map with nukes? (i really want to declare nuclear war on someone with my airship and i.) Go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfodder1 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 blobture and green's castle have now been nuked. buzzcut and my base is next on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavjenks Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 By the way, did anybody ever kill the End dragon on this map? DO NOT visit the end right now (you will crash with an internal server error probably and not be able to log on... >.>) but I found the landmass and there was no dragon but also no exit gate...? I've been on other multiplayer servers before with dragons. What was up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoJesse Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Hi Andrew, My GTM time is +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanoblieb Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 andrew my gtm time is +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanoblieb Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 andrew battle_bas i and yojesse want to work together in minedustries we know each other IRL and have the same time zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xchampx13 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Can we reset sooner than later, it is very boring knowing that there is just gonna be a reset and not have it be for awhile sice there is no real point in doing anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdonshik Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Can we reset sooner than later, it is very boring knowing that there is just gonna be a reset and not have it be for awhile sice there is no real point in doing anything Yea, I will tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenWolf13 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yay, I'll be on vacation till sunday so i won't be able to play until monday (at the earliest, more likely I won't be able to play until next weekend) so I'll be really far behind. Fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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