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Microsoft Security Essentials is also a good free option. Very light weight and unobtrusive but still protects you very well. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/security-essentials Both good options. Perhaps even better then most of the non-free anti-virus. AVG for sure.

Try setting it to 512 or 1Gb ram. Then go in game and turn on Max FPS and Load chunks far or whatever similarly named option. See how that effects your FPS. We can try a few things.

A general notice to all those suffering from failures to update while using the launcher. Are you using AVG? If so, consider finding some better anti-virus software. If you refuse to then at least make sure it isn't blocking the launcher. AVG and some other anti virus programs will auto lock out any application it doesn't recognize that makes outbound connections. It'll do this by default without bothering to let you know. This can leave you scratching your head and thinking the launcher is broken. PLEASE CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOUR ANTI-VIRUS ISN'T BLOCKING TECHNIC FROM CONNECTING TO MOJANG. If it can't do that, then it cant download minecraft from their servers, and then the mods from ours. That means your update will fail and you'll come in here and post a thread that it's not working and we'll have no idea what to do and spend hours checking and testing. That ultimately means it will take longer for more updates in general and no one wants that. Do everyone a solid and try as many things as you can think of to get it working before giving up. It could be as simple as AVG.

UGH AVG! AVG is like poison to technic. I don't know why anyone uses it. I'll lock up your computer for viruses if you sneeze.

... What...what happened more then nothing? You left me hanging.

Give us more info. Your operating system (example, Windows 7 64 bit). Your version of Java (example, Java 7 64 bit) are two things that help narrow down your problem considerably. Also what version of Tekkit are you using? The other possibility is that the server is running a different version of tekkit then you are, or that you're trying to join it with technic selected instead of tekkit. Please tell me it's not the latter.

Blow dart gun 4 life. Cheap as hell and devastating.

Perhaps but technically that's what he'd be doing anyway. Except instead of "use this if you want your mod to work with mine." He'd be saying "There's only one way to make your mod work with mine and you can't have it." I'm not sure which is worse. Probably the latter since it means BTW's stays isolated and we don't have to care about it. Balls to it though, it doesn't matter. BTW's sucks and FC is a complete idiot. No sugarcoating. Straight facts.

But then for the most part they can talk back, unless they are forever banned. Then it would be like the rest of the forums and we might as well leave them where they are. Naw the whale box is like a museum. Look but don't touch. You have to shine in the now if you want to be a part of history.

Anyone who thinks a difference can be made by joining together and raising their voices are usually right, but in this situation you'd find yourselves worse off then before. The best way you can make a positive change in this community is by not giving two shits about anything anyone shouts about. Playing mods you like, donating to the mods authors, and posting publicly about the things you like is what everyone should be doing. The more you get angry and worked up, the faster this community spirals down the drain. We've had more luck getting permissions recently since everyone stopped caring about FlowerChild and realized he's just a huge ass. Technic is THE way to play minecraft. Two out of two Yogs agree. People are catching on that modpacks are the best way to do things when your target audience is a community like this. The modders will just be the last to figure it out. We hope by being reasonable and helpful they'll come around and see things in a more positive light. I mean we love the hell out of MC drama. It's the most entertaining kind of drama. But we'd love to have technic become more then it is.

I'm glad someone caught that joke. There's hope here yet! Now on another note, I was almost certain this was part of another thread about spacetoad. Did someone else split it into a new topic or did I? I honestly don't remember doing that.

Whalebox is read only. Any threads in there were frozen and locked after being moved.

Gibberish?! Well, I never! Get bent! Glad you like the forums.

100% true story. When I was quite young a dog tore half my face off. Had to have it sewn back on at the hospital. I don't have any hard feelings towards dogs in general. If I can overcome something like that and not condemn an entire species on the actions of one, then surly no one has any right to do so. DOG MARRIAGE LEGAL 2012!!!!!

??? I'm not too worried about some war starting. People stopped caring about this drama a while ago. The only people who would pick up a sword and blast the war horns are the people who wouldn't be caught dead on this site anyway due to "principals".

No he's right. That's exactly it. I bug test and then that's my free time gone.

Good god, don't allocate 8 GB of ram! This is Java, so it won't help at all. The more ram you allocate minecraft, the worse it runs. If you set it to 8GB, it will eventually use 8GB before it dumps all the garbage data. Then you can expect a good ol' HURRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG processor committing suicide. Also, your fps is of course going to be lower then vanilla because you're running mods. It's extra tax on the CPU which slows performance. Buildcraft alone ads an extra 20-30% strain on the cpu constantly, and we can't do a thing about it. If you want you can go ask all the mod makers to spend time optimizing their code to help performance, but sadly most of them will just tell you to get bent and they don't care. [ProblemTechnicFacesConstantly] Afterall, it wouldn't be a problem if you just used their mod alone and never played with others. [/ProblemTechnicFacesConstantly]

I barely play it.

Another good point. Under Sweden's laws, modding is very shaky ground to begin with. An extremely good example. Even though Elder Scrolls games mods are about 80% anime sex mods, their community is still better and more progressive then the Minecraft community. It's absolutely depressing.

Actually if you don't know what that means I'll double post and tell you, then I'll probate myself for double posting. Being able to retroactively change their ToS without having to inform you means that if you agreed to the minecraft terms of service (which we all did), they can go back and change what you agreed to, and then take action against you for violating the ToS. You'll have had no idea.

Edit: This was part of some other thread that I think another mod split into a new topic. I think it was originally about copyrights or something. Sorry if the context broke I have no idea. Woah this thread grew while I wasn't looking. Here's a long block of words that I suggest you read anyway. Reading is good for the brain and I'm a pretty reasonable person so this might answer some of your questions. Here's some interesting parts of the Minecraft ToS. Some areas have been bolded by me to make them more eye catching and flirty. http://www.minecraft.net/terms Modders rights? Mojang gives them none. Anything that is based off minecraft and works in or around or near it exists on borrowed time. Every mod is built with a chain attached and Notch is holding them all, able to tug them back in at his leisure. Even if anyone thought they had grounds to take legal action against someone else, the only way you can sue someone in regards to copyright is through claiming for damages (read: lost revenue. None of them make revenue since they don't sell their mods as a product). Any of them who accept donations have made much more money since their technic inclusion then they ever had with adf.ly anyway. They'd have to try suing for reverse damages I guess. "Your honor! I made too much money! Throw the book at them!" And these problems never used to be problems before Minecraft. KakerMix is dead right when he likens the minecraft community to a poison environment. All the modders feel their mods are the next thing to a kings throne for them, and that if anyone else makes a mod, it's like splitting up THEIR kingdom. All the fans make snap judgements as quickly as they can. No one has their own opinions or the initiative to go learn about the things everyone is discussing. Modders are just people. They can be greedy, or egotistical, or selfish just like anyone else. Even more so really, considering the position they are in. People need to stop worshipping them and start thinking rationally, so we can have a positive modding community. Emotional judgements are what starts the bandwagon rolling. Behind all the layers of outrage and whatnot there is actually very little drama. Just people keeping the fires going. Honestly, all that happened was a personal modpack for friends escape Kakers control due to spotlight attention, and we've been doing our best to support it since it's something we believe to be a good thing. If we could have gotten permission right away we would have, but we couldn't have. Not with the way the community was when we started, and not in the accidental nature that the Technic pack started in. Now that Technic has been going for a good long while people are starting to understand the potential modpacks have, and we've been getting permissions. I truly wish we could get them all, and we are trying, but there are still a few modders left fanning the drama fire. Flowerchild isn't even in Technic anymore but the drama was too good for him to let go of and he's fanning the hardest. We hope we do get full permissions some day. Until then we're making every effort to be more professional and reshape the community into something survivable. A community with bridges instead of walls. Edit: I mean seriously. Able to make retroactive changes to the ToS, especially without having to notify anyone? If you don't know what retroactive means, google it and then understand why that's so insane and awful.

Well hell it might. We took it out because it was causing some problems. I don't think it was anything major so go ahead. Just be careful yadda yadda.

Bumping this so that everyone has a double chance to see it.

You have to remember people. The internet isn't a virtual American state. There are no apple pies and good ol' boys here. Just cold swift authority and Intolerance for morons and weird idiots.

Link to the new format. It's also stickied at the top of this forums. http://forums.technicpack.net/index.php/topic,2797.0.html There is now no excuse to not have read about it.