Lothos Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 So yeah, I've played alot of MC and alot of new maps and not once has the default gate spawn in the Nether ever screwed me royal like it just did. I am about 40 blocks above the lava lake bottom ( which is typical) but this time i'm alone on a 9x7 1 block thick scrap of netherrack with 3 ghasts floating overhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos56 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 A few random ideas: You could switch the difficulty to peaceful, start scrambling to build a cobblestone ceiling, punch their fireballs back at them, or jump and hope you're fireproof. Arranged in order of likelihood to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I confess to rage quitting the map. I died 3 times digging up thru the nearest stalagmite and having lava pour down upon me. It was only yesterdays map :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowulf Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I never hit the nether without a set of quantum armor, a mining turtle, and 10 stacks of cobble. Quick shell of cobble to break ghast LOS then let the turtle build large walkways to interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 never looked at the turtles before honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torezu Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I never hit the nether without a set of quantum armor, a mining turtle, and 10 stacks of cobble. Quick shell of cobble to break ghast LOS then let the turtle build large walkways to interesting stuff. How do you get the quantum armor without going into the Nether, since you need glowstone dust for at least the mass fabs and the advanced circuits, if not most of the other advanced equipment, like MFSUs? **Edit: I guess there are other ways of getting glowstone dust, but the nether seems the easiest, cheapest, and quickest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowulf Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ah, whoops, I meant nano armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudzerivovneach Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The nether has raped me up the ass like Jupiter before. Many times. Then I figured out to put my entrance portals deep underground so I'll spawn right above the lava table where ghasts aren't likely to be shooting at me right out of the gate, and bring a few stacks of cobblestone for quickly throwing up a defense. It's pretty kind to me now. So everyone knows, if you build a portal at or below level 32, you'll be right at the lava table in the nether. Every block that would otherwise be air is lava below level 32, like in the main world at level 10(?), so even if there are caves they're filled with lava, so you don't have to worry about trying to dig up and out into the nether proper from under a lava sea or some such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 I am thinking about doing my portal down at my main layer 12 exploration chamber this time to hope for a much lower initial nether spawn. usually i've been lazy and place it outside wherever I was at layer 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrial Miner Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The nether screwed me up when I kept spawning in the roof of the nether above a huge lava lake. I've moved away to a new castle to live in (this is vanilla 1.8.1 I'm talking about) and created a new portal there, but guess what? THE SAME FUCKING PLACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon98man Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Im having an issue right now where my nether portal (placed at level 50-something in the over world) has spawned on level 8-ish in the nether. I can't get above ground to get glowstone (my reason for going to the nether) without running into a lake of lava. I know the lakes are huge, but I cant find anywhere to get above level 22. Ive tried other portals in my main land ( hundreds of blocks apart) but they all link to the same portal in the nether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcondoin Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Try making a new portal in a distance of over 1024, instead of only a few hundred. That should make sure, that you'll generate a new portal. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal#Implications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon98man Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thank you I will definitely try this. I got about 600 away from my home and realized that my stupid self only had 5 obsidian. So now I'm almost 1300 blocks away from home, on a quest to find 3 source blocks of lava (2 i got from a vanilla village i stumbled upon and I used water on the blacksmiths forge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon98man Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Just wanted to thank milcondoin for the advise. I made a few stupid errors while obtaining my glowstone but the 1024 block trick worked like a charm. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 what i have done in the past sometimes is to make a second portal 20 or so from the first nether portal in the nether and spawned a new portal in the overworld. Then depending on the outcome I destroy that nether portal in the nether and use the newly generated one in the overworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunswick Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The only thing that really hardcore bumfucks me is starting on tiny islands floating in the middle of nowhere above the lava sea. My friends and I have taken to calling them 'Fuck You Isles'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 I cant find a happy layer to make the first portal on myself. Layer 12 sucked in the nether appearing on 22 way below the lakes. Layer 80 sucked being thrown up on FU isles. 64 is almost as bad as 80. I'm thinking maybe layer 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torezu Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I use 56. Don't ask. I've had bad luck a few times anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 um, i dont know what happened this time. I made a gate on layer 45 ended up in the nether on 32 on the shore of the lava lake. went back thru the gate and it made a new gate in the overworld 180 blocks away. wtf??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danidas Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 If you want to make good one to one portal links the best thing to do is take your over world x and y cords. Than divide them by 8 and place your nether side portal at those cords. This will guarantee a proper link between the two portals that should never connect to another portal other then one above or below your one. The reason this works so well is that every block you travel horizontally in the nether is equal to 8 in the over world and both the nether and over world share the same 0 cords. As for the z cord it rarely matters and can even screw you over if your not careful. Since the game will look for the nearest valid location with in 16 blocks of your nether cords (over word cords divided by 8) along the full 128 block z axis (33 by 33 by 128 area). If it cannot find a valid area than it will create one at the nearest air space to your nether cords and you will often end up with a floating nether portal over a lava lake. As for a valid location it looks for a area big enough to house the portal and has at least one layer of ground around the portal. The game will also hunt for the nearest portal with in a 257 × 257 × 128 tall box volume centered horizontally on destination coordinate when looking for a portal. So if it fails to find one it will create a new one, which happens most often if the portal it created was at or beyond the max distance it can create one. All this info is from - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_portal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danidas Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 um, i dont know what happened this time. I made a gate on layer 45 ended up in the nether on 32 on the shore of the lava lake. went back thru the gate and it made a new gate in the overworld 180 blocks away. wtf??? Simple their were no valid locations with in the 16 block radius it checks so it created a portal at the nearest location it could. Which was more than 16 blocks away from where it should of bin in the nether and than when it looked for a return portal it failed to find one with in 128 blocks as you were a few blocks off in the nether. Once it failed to find a portal it created a new one in the over world at the closest location it could based on your nether cords times 8 and with in 16 blocks of that location. Just be glad you did it so far underground in the over world other wise you would of ended up stranded on a floating platform above the lava lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 can i just destroy the new stupid portal it made in the overlworld and force the other 2 to link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoho Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I've made maybe around 20-ish nether portals and have yet to encounter any serious problems or land on FU-isles. Guess I'm just lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danidas Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 can i just destroy the new stupid portal it made in the overlworld and force the other 2 to link? Destroy the new over land portal that was made than go into the nether and build a platform out over the lava lake. Than destroy the portal in the nether and relocate it onto the platform and it should link up. You only need to make the platform a few blocks over the lake, since each block in the nether is equal to 8 in the over world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothos Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 the original portal in the nether spawned in the side of a netherack cliff. i have amybe 7 or 8 blocks out from it to the lake. Was it the cliff that caused the problem or the nearness of the lake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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