Minecraft Account Migrations & New Accounts

[Seg0408]

If you just bought minecraft, grab a refund and tell them exactly why. If enough people do it, maybe we can force them to release how to add the auth.

[tonnic]

On 2/27/2021 at 3:56 PM, Pyker said:

An update:

Mojang/Microsoft just changed their stance on third-party launchers. Previously, they said they were working on a solution to allow third-party launchers to authenticate with their new login system (Microsoft accounts), but now they have decided to drop any support for that entirely, and are instead relying on us to roll out our own support.

https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360050865492

With all this said, we already had a backup plan in mind, and we'll start working on that so everyone can use Technic once again, regardless of having a Microsoft account or not.

Any updates on this?

[Dragonfire98765]

so, i wanted to ask this since i just got a new account after I lost my mojang account to time. (i forgot my details after years of not being on PC minecraft.)

is there a bandied method we could use like https://files.minecraftforge.net/ to create a mod pack that goes through that till a more permanent solution is available?

will admit I'm a returning user so my knowledge is limited.

[Pyker]

The Microsoft login support is currently being developed and cleaned up.

[tonnic]

3 hours ago, Pyker said:

The Microsoft login support is currently being developed and cleaned up.

That's great to hear!  Does your team have a target date / eta on the release?

[Dragonfire98765]

i think at this point asking for an ETA only takes time away from getting it done and polished. best to wait and contemplate how much of a pain Microsoft made this. 

[tonnic]

Just now, Dragonfire98765 said:

i think at this point asking for an ETA only takes time away from getting it done and polished. best to wait and contemplate how much of a pain Microsoft made this. 

That's a ridiculous statement.

[Dragonfire98765]

is it? it's a free service there providing. I've modded out Oblivion, Skyrim, fallout 3, NV & 4, dragon age and subnautica, one of the most common reasons I've seem mod authors drop of the face of the planet is people demanding an updates or new versions of mods. pretty much being hounded for the next version and then complaining when something doesn't work as intended.  

Technic aren't some triple A development team here that's getting paid to deliver a product. i think it's donation based. could be wrong. 

there aware of the solution and have a potential fix. who knows if that fix is 100% perfect. there could be unforeseen issues. that takes time. also bear in mind responding to "when" posts takes time as well.  (one of the things that killed TFSs DBZA was "when broly" hounded for a year...)

if they give us an ETA they have to try and stick to it and that puts them under pressure. I know everyone here wants to go on it and I get that. as a gamer myself waiting for games it one of the most annoying things. but given that getting it development quickly now means a dip in quality that they can just fix with an update. i'd rather be back with the PS2 where games where released as a finished product. 

however I've come to appreciate the term, "do you want it done quick or properly?" setting up a new login system might be new water for them, untested water that could turn foul any second. bear in mind there are still players with the OG Mojang account who can get on it now, when that switch is flicked, and they release the update, if they miss something it might mean they get knocked off the service because we rushed them. 

and then the team is in a worse off position because people did not have patience. 

also Microsoft is now Mojang's parent company so there the ones with final say so blame them. 

[tonnic]

5 minutes ago, Dragonfire98765 said:

is it? it's a free service there providing. I've modded out Oblivion, Skyrim, fallout 3, NV & 4, dragon age and subnautica, one of the most common reasons I've seem mod authors drop of the face of the planet is people demanding an updates or new versions of mods. pretty much being hounded for the next version and then complaining when something doesn't work as intended.  

Technic aren't some triple A development team here that's getting paid to deliver a product. i think it's donation based. could be wrong. 

there aware of the solution and have a potential fix. who knows if that fix is 100% perfect. there could be unforeseen issues. that takes time. also bear in mind responding to "when" posts takes time as well.  (one of the things that killed TFSs DBZA was "when broly" hounded for a year...)

if they give us an ETA they have to try and stick to it and that puts them under pressure. I know everyone here wants to go on it and I get that. as a gamer myself waiting for games it one of the most annoying things. but given that getting it development quickly now means a dip in quality that they can just fix with an update. i'd rather be back with the PS2 where games where released as a finished product. 

however I've come to appreciate the term, "do you want it done quick or properly?" setting up a new login system might be new water for them, untested water that could turn foul any second. bear in mind there are still players with the OG Mojang account who can get on it now, when that switch is flicked, and they release the update, if they miss something it might mean they get knocked off the service because we rushed them. 

and then the team is in a worse off position because people did not have patience. 

also Microsoft is now Mojang's parent company so there the ones with final say so blame them. 

Regardless what development team that you work on, if you do not have a goal to work towards, then that is poor project planning.   I never said quick, I simply asked what their ETA was.  If it was planned out and they were targeting 3 months from now, then at least there would be some sort of target.

[Dragonfire98765]

they have a goal, getting the fix, but again, setting a time to that goal only puts pressure on them. it's not really fair to expect them to put an ETA even 3 months on something, when this donation based and a free service. if it was a genuine company then yes, because that's what all the devs do as a job, it's a commitment, a responsibility, and what there putting forward first. but this is something that's done in free time to bring fun to others. 

let's say they give an ETA of a month, and then the person developing the authentication with Microsoft get's a job offer that means they have less time, suddenly, one of the people there reliant on can't mean the time and they have to delay it and everyone starts demanding why they had to delay it. and then spending more time having to placate the masses. 

projects like this, life gets in the way, meaning the free time they have to work on it becomes adherent to what life dishes out to each developer on the team. so they either have an ETA that can change daily. causing more strife than it's worth.

or they can say, "where working on it as fast as we can and be more understanding" with the knowledge that they can be flexible with what life throws at them.

you are putting the rules that a project planner would have in a job based environment on the shoulders of people that do this as a passion project/donations based project. 

isn't that just a tad bit unfair. i get it, you paid for Minecraft, but you have Minecraft. this service is a free one. unless your willing to offer every developer here a salary to work on technic full time. be patient.

[tonnic]

1 minute ago, Dragonfire98765 said:

they have a goal, getting the fix, but again, setting a time to that goal only puts pressure on them. it's not really fair to expect them to put an ETA even 3 months on something, when this donation based and a free service. if it was a genuine company then yes, because that's what all the devs do as a job, it's a commitment, a responsibility, and what there putting forward first. but this is something that's done in free time to bring fun to others. 

let's say they give an ETA of a month, and then the person developing the authentication with Microsoft get's a job offer that means they have less time, suddenly, one of the people there reliant on can't mean the time and they have to delay it and everyone starts demanding why they had to delay it. and then spending more time having to placate the masses. 

projects like this, life gets in the way, meaning the free time they have to work on it becomes adherent to what life dishes out to each developer on the team. so they either have an ETA that can change daily. causing more strife than it's worth.

or they can say, "where working on it as fast as we can and be more understanding" with the knowledge that they can be flexible with what life throws at them.

you are putting the rules that a project planner would have in a job based environment on the shoulders of people that do this as a passion project/donations based project. 

isn't that just a tad bit unfair. i get it, you paid for Minecraft, but you have Minecraft. this service is a free one. unless your willing to offer every developer here a salary to work on technic full time. be patient.

Agree to disagree.  If you are a developer and do not believe in project plans, then that is your prerogative. 

[Dragonfire98765]

dude i just buried my dad/grandad (he raised me) last week, if i was developing everything as a Passione project i would find it hard to continue and just focus on actual job work until i could get my head straight regardless of announced ETA's 

i think given the current climate asking for an ETA on anything that isn't a paid job is a bit much.

[Pyker]

Can we please be civil? I understand that everyone is upset with the delay on support for Microsoft accounts (myself included), but it's really close to being a thing.

[Dragonfire98765]

really close is good enough for me. take the time you need to polish. 

[tcouzynse]

I'm just glad to hear there has been progress. Technic rocks!

[Dragonfire98765]

so i'm clearing out an old laptop that i used to use for online purchases and stored on there is my old minecraft login details. so now i have two copies... lol. still keep up the good work. 

[Melonsmelon]

On 4/11/2021 at 7:27 PM, Pyker said:

Can we please be civil? I understand that everyone is upset with the delay on support for Microsoft accounts (myself included), but it's really close to being a thing.

 

HI mate, any news on a rough date Microsoft accounts can play as I am deciding whether to refund my Java minecraft purchase as I bought minecraft purely to play tekkit. 

[tcouzynse]

You could always just refund and buy it again when it gets updated

19 minutes ago, Melonsmelon said:

 

HI mate, any news on a rough date Microsoft accounts can play as I am deciding whether to refund my Java minecraft purchase as I bought minecraft purely to play tekkit. 

 

[Dragonfire98765]

while refunding is an option keep in mind it doesn't really make a blind bit of difference. it's Microsoft...

due to it having more platforms to play on (PC, xbox, Playstation, nintendo, android...) bedrock has more players, the site promotes it over Java, if they see people refunding the purchase and reason it - "tekkit support" there going to just laugh at it. 

why do you think they dropped modding support for java edition? beadrock in there eyes is clearly easier to work with and more versatile "from there point of view" and at this point they update java as a courtesy. honestly bedrock edition seems to earn them more money in the long run. 

https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360034753992-Different-Minecraft-Editions

keep in mind them them dropping support for MOD is an indication there winding down the amount of development funding for java edition, they won't close the service, but it wouldn't surprise me if bedrock started getting updates before java does. 

I'm holding on to the spare account I ended up making when I thought i lost my old account because I know they'll get it sorted. 

yes i get to enjoy it now, but I really want to set up a LAN game with my fiancée and we can't yet do that because of this issue. there working on it. i can use the account i made as a LAN server. 

[Pikku]

On 4/11/2021 at 6:37 PM, tonnic said:

Agree to disagree.  If you are a developer and do not believe in project plans, then that is your prerogative. 

Totally right. As a software engineer with years of experience, I can assure you everyone working on any kind of development project (software or not) has an ETA. Can't even call it a project if you don't have a plan to sustain it...

[MCMasters]

On 12/8/2020 at 9:58 PM, Lord Ptolemy said:

If you've read the recent MC account migration (https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/java-edition-moving-house) and you use Technic Launcher (or any other custom launchers), then do not migrate your account (to a Microsoft account) or you will be unable to use the launcher.

The new auth system that Minecraft uses after this migration isn't support by any MC launchers other than the vanilla launcher, nor do we currently have any information about it so we can implement it.

When? According to Mojang, you'll be forced to migrate your account starting in early 2021. We hope to have support for their new auth system by then. The migration is currently not ongoing.

What if I create a new Minecraft account? Minecraft accounts created on December 1st, 2020 and later, are bound to Microsoft accounts already, and won't be able to use the Technic Launcher, or any other third-party launcher, until Mojang/Microsoft create a solution we can use.

 

UPDATES

4/11/21

 

2/27/21

 

You should try making it so that technic doesn’t launch the game, but instead installs the modpack into the Minecraft launcher as a version, so new players can just install the mod packs without signing in. 

[FireStone3942]

but then you add the login also with Microsoft accounts, right?
 

 

[duckbao]

On 2/28/2021 at 12:03 PM, Pyker said:

I think legally it would be very very complicated for them. I'm just annoyed they started working on something and gave up halfway, but at least they're not saying third-party launchers aren't allowed, just that we're on our own.

 

On 4/30/2021 at 6:44 PM, MCMasters said:

You should try making it so that technic doesn’t launch the game, but instead installs the modpack into the Minecraft launcher as a version, so new players can just install the mod packs without signing in. 

I totally agree! This is how Curse forge does it and the launcher itself allows people to choose account type they can play with (Mojang or microsoft) ! It would make it accessible for all!

[Vniz]

Are there any updates on this topic? Has Microsoft, or Technic figured this out yet?

[Pyker]

We're nearly ready.