Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Having fossil fuels being the top-end source of power in a Tekkit modpack is wrong on EVERY level. I get that IC2 is sandbagging the update, but what's wrong with Atomic Science?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feekkee Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Does Atomic Science sience work at it own with just buildcraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 I don't know, but I don't see why It's output can't be made into joules if it isn't already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teraku Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Maybe having Voltz into Tekkit could be fun. Now that Galacticraft and Modular Powersuits is in, some Voltz mods would be nice. Having fossil fuels being the top-end source of power in a Tekkit modpack is wrong on EVERY level. I get that IC2 is sandbagging the update, but what's wrong with Atomic Science?? It's not just that IC2 would hold off updating, it's also that IC2 is largely redundant now and outclassed by other mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Maybe having Voltz into Tekkit could be fun. Now that Galacticraft and Modular Powersuits is in, some Voltz mods would be nice. Agreed 10,000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niavmai Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Having fossil fuels being the top-end source of power in a Tekkit modpack is wrong on EVERY level. I get that IC2 is sandbagging the update, but what's wrong with Atomic Science?? 1) IC2 will not be returning to Tekkit any time soon. 2) Look into Thermal Expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeb28 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Having fossil fuels being the top-end source of power in a Tekkit modpack is wrong on EVERY level. I get that IC2 is sandbagging the update, but what's wrong with Atomic Science?? I do agree with you on the atomic science but not with the current endgame power gen. Currently, I run a solid fuel boiler on nothing but charcoal from an auto tree farm and that supply's power to a fermenter and a still to turn the saplings from the farm into bio fuel which is then used in combustion engines. It is 100% self sustaining and outputs a good amount of MJ (Something like 40MJ/Tick). I'm still not done the setup, I want to have the biofuel go into a liquid boiler and power industrial steam engines. 18 Industrial steam engines at 8 MJ/tick is 144MJ/tick. It doesn't even need any maintenance after setup. I think that can count as endgame powergen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 1) IC2 will not be returning to Tekkit any time soon. I know that...that's why I said I get why IC2 isn't in 2) Look into Thermal Expansion. Thermal Expansion's engines all run on fossil fuels or lava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teraku Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 They don't run on BioFuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Lemming Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Having fossil fuels being the top-end source of power in a Tekkit modpack is wrong on EVERY level. I get that IC2 is sandbagging the update, but what's wrong with Atomic Science?? In a nutshell, it's UE. It's a solution to a problem that didn't exist. It carries with it all of the UE baggage and strictly speaking, their cabling is less computationally efficient than conduit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 They don't run on BioFuel? Biofuel is literally fossil fuel In a nutshell, it's UE. It's a solution to a problem that didn't exist. It carries with it all of the UE baggage and strictly speaking, their cabling is less computationally efficient than conduit. That still doesn't address the sillyness that Tekkit, a modpack with computers, super suits, rocketships, microcircuitry, robots, interdimensional travel, planet terraforming, and magic gets its energy from gasoline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooseman9 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Biofuel is literally fossil fuel That still doesn't address the sillyness that Tekkit, a modpack with computers, super suits, rocketships, microcircuitry, robots, interdimensional travel, planet terraforming, and magic gets its energy from gasoline. What's wrong with getting your energy from coal, oil, lava, farms, or whatever else you can come up with? This is minecraft, not real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teraku Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'd still like a few more energy sources, though. Windmills, Water Mills/Dams and some sort of nuclear energy would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeb28 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Unless there is some kind of mod that makes the environment change the more you pollute, what does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 What's wrong with getting your energy from coal, oil, lava, farms, or whatever else you can come up with? This is minecraft, not real life. Unless there is some kind of mod that makes the environment change the more you pollute, what does it matter? Really guys? The Technic Pack from the very beginning was about bringing together all the best mods that expanded the technology you could use in the game to the nth degree. But apparently it's now ok that the latest version of Tekkit is ignoring (equal quality) mods with the most powerful energy sources? I mean, jeez, if you'll settle for "good enough" why not play Better Than Wolves instead? (and lukeb28, MFR does indeed have machines that create pollution) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeb28 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Post count = 12 Joined Thursday "why not play Better Than Wolves instead?" ladys and gentlemen, we have a troll. If not then how about you go dev a mod that adds Nuclear power to output MJ? MJ is the future, EU is in the past. Embrace the change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Don't you hate people who conclude anyone who derides is a troll? Point is, nuclear power is missing from Tekkit for the first time in over a year. Why? Because it's easier that way? As lame a reason as I've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowulf Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The Technic Pack from the very beginning was about bringing together all the best mods that expanded the technology you could use in the game to the nth degree. Uhm, sorry, but Kakermix has responded to this type of argument many times. Technic/tekkit is about being fun. Your argument is identical to the guys who called for EE and thaumcraft to be removed from technic because "It's a technical modpack for technical mods, not magical!" Personally, I don't see what all the rage is about. Tekkit makes a great base for creating your own modpack that can then be listen on Platform. Download tekkit, copy the necessary files to a new folder, add the mods you think are missing, and repackage it as your own modpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topster Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Uhm, sorry, but Kakermix has responded to this type of argument many times. Technic/tekkit is about being fun. Your argument is identical to the guys who called for EE and thaumcraft to be removed from technic because "It's a technical modpack for technical mods, not magical!" Personally, I don't see what all the rage is about. Tekkit makes a great base for creating your own modpack that can then be listen on Platform. Download tekkit, copy the necessary files to a new folder, add the mods you think are missing, and repackage it as your own modpack. People who want EE and TC out of Tekkit want less options and less freedom with the mod pack. I'm saying there should be more options. Are you really saying the latter isn't about tekkit being fun? I will totally add IC2 and RP2 when they're updated, but is there something wrong with being upset that Tekkit is reducing variability in the name of simplicity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neowulf Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 You're saying you know the theme of the pack ("More options") better than the guys making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfruits Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 you can always build more engine or something,you want one block power plant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatheed Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 There isn't really a need for IC2. The machine side of it has been replaced with the Thermal Expansion stuff. Need power? Make a tesseract and pump lava from the nether or burn netherrack and run magmatic engines. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanVox Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 In a nutshell, it's UE. It's a solution to a problem that didn't exist. It carries with it all of the UE baggage and strictly speaking, their cabling is less computationally efficient than conduit. Atomic Science is actually BC-compatible, so it would just be another generator. It might go in, recent versions of AS have been problematic, but I've been told that AS's 1.5 version is quite solid. I'll need to see it for myself. Adding more generator options is going to happen and is one of our main objectives for the next big version, but it's not going to happen by re-adding IC2. I've been pretty verbose about my issues with it elsewhere, so if someone is going to ignore all that and boil our position down to "it's easier to leave out IC2", which is laughable, I don't really have much else to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teraku Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Honestly, I think we should all just suck it up. I have to agree there's not a lot of interesting and different power sources at the moment, but that's going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerevox Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I added in the full UE lineup to my technic and I am only playing it single player but so far it has been working quite well. There is no BC<->UE power converter, but I haven't run into any real problems. Also, nuclear reactors are awesome. The power they produce is almost irrelevant, nuclear reactors are just fun to build in your house's basement. Because nuclear reactor in basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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