Jorcer Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I'm contemplating whether or not citing ED is a bannable offense personally. Are you referring to me?
jakj Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 The idea that there is not a wealth of skilled programmers working on modding is ignorant and imbecilic. I don't know whether you think that somehow playing computer games is beneath intelligent people (which is insulting to those people, at the very least), or whether you think that skilled programmers are some sort of mystic beast not to be found amongst we the rabble. Are you referring to me? I'm sure that isn't helping.
OmegaJasam Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 The egos and such are largly fueled by the current trends of 'Anti-Entitlement' spawned by idiots, 'Copyright' spawned by curse, and 'pennys' spawned by ad.fly. Throw in a couple of bad seeds such as Flower Child and Sanguir, and you have a drama fest. A drama fest that would normaly die, but the actual comminity behind it is busy sproating on about those 3 things so instead of going /under/ after /putting malicious code/ into a mod, they're cheered on and it gets worse. It's..... quite possably the most toxic enviroment ever. I'd be reluctant to partake myself (if I had enough time to do so).
jakj Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 The problem with human emotions is they don't scale. In any similar grouping of people, you will have approximately X% of a group that likes a certain action, which in a normal environment (before the Internet) might be only 0-1 people, and a person would get a clear indication of "this is not socially acceptable". On the Internet, however, when you suddenly involve huge numbers of people, that X% can suddenly be hundreds of people. It no longer feels like "only X% of people like what I did, and that's really bad", but it feels like "damn, there are hundreds of people who like that, that's great".
NinjaStyle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 I thkn you misinterpreted my post, I meant to say that the people who make the big mods are the ones who cause all the drama. Im not a morning person sorry. The ed reference was to the anti-tekkit noobs.
jakj Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 There is no correlation between size of mod and ego/emo density of modder: The bigger ones are just more visible. The ratio between "I make a mod and I think you should use it" and "sparklefarts r mine i sue u lol" is fairly evenly-distributed.
NinjaStyle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 True enough. Just from my experience I've only seen bigger mods be emo.
jakj Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 I can assure you, plenty of picayune little kids who have implemented yet another ore-doubling furnace block think they are the gods' gift to Minecraft modding, and tell you so at every opportunity.
Jay? Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 I can assure you, plenty of picayune little kids who have implemented yet another ore-doubling furnace block think they are the gods' gift to Minecraft modding, and tell you so at every opportunity. Ore doubling furnace? I've seen schmucks with another "obsidian tools, lol infinite uses/twice as fast as diamond" or "this mod adds 2 ores, but they don't do anything" mods with incredibly restrictive "license" text.
NinjaStyle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Just had a read through some of the mod forums on MCF. Wow, my apologies to jakj...
jakj Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 "this mod adds 2 ores, but they don't do anything" If I wanted ores that don't do anything, I'd play vanilla; Even Notch managed that one.
EzioA Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 If I wanted ores that don't do anything, I'd play vanilla; Even Notch managed that one. Heheh, is that the emerald one? (Or gold, it's fucking useless..) Even the people who make "dirt to diamonds" (like this search came up with) think they're gods, even though their thread looks like total crap (this.) and "you can make diamond tools out of dirt!" I don't even know the word for this kind of activity, but it seems horrible. (And for the final touch, a crap thread.)
Jorcer Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Heheh, is that the emerald one? (Or gold, it's fucking useless..) Even the people who make "dirt to diamonds" (like this search came up with) think they're gods, even though their thread looks like total crap (this.) and "you can make diamond tools out of dirt!" I don't even know the word for this kind of activity, but it seems horrible. (And for the final touch, a crap thread.) To be fair, almost any link to the MCForums will be a "crap thread"
The_DarthMoogle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 To be fair, almost any link to the MCForums will be a "crap thread" As a matter of fact, that's a self fulfilling prophecy, seeing as people will now only post links containing crap threads. Like this one http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/985715-minefield-3/
GreenWolf13 Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 To be fair, almost any link to the MCForums will be a "crap thread" I've said it before, I'll say it again. At best the MC Forums are a poorly run piece of shit. At worst they can cause you to consider suicide. Also, the hatred in them is so thick you could cut it with a SPOON!
The Merchant of Menace Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 They've never caused me to concider suicide. Homicide on the other hand, crosses my mind often when I'm drawn there.
The_DarthMoogle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 I don't mind having a good chuckle in the Mod Requests section. There seems to be a fad of paying modders, but retaining all the rights, ideas, assests, and distribution of the mod. That's just fucking retarded. That statement was also not entirely PC, apologies are in order. Also, some dickwad is impersonating me over there. Anyone feel like helping me get a rat onto his system so I can have that account for myself?
jakj Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 There seems to be a fad of paying modders, but retaining all the rights, ideas, assests, and distribution of the mod. Why is that unusual? That's how every non-indie game works: The publisher owns it, and pays the developer to make it. It's a system of commission.
The_DarthMoogle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Why is that unusual? That's how every non-indie game works: The publisher owns it, and pays the developer to make it. It's a system of commission. That seems utterly backwards to me in a modding environment. Considering that most of the requests come from kids who have no idea whether what they ask for is even feasible. Except these kids are very thorough in making clear that they own everything this modder does for them. Like the modder's going to bitch them out and steal their ad.fly pennies. (I am well aware of the system in the flesh, being a musician available for commission)
charcharmunro Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 So has this thread derailed into "Let's talk about how horrible the Minecraft modding community can be"?
jakj Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 So has this thread derailed into "Let's talk about how horrible the Minecraft modding community can be"? Let's hope not; That particular subject is already done to death.
The_DarthMoogle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Can we talk about how horrible PlanetMinecraft is instead?
NinjaStyle Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 >Has actually made a mod that added ores >Posting on Technic Forums complaining about stupid mods In my defence they would of been used for different things.
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