RutibexRut Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 So ya. Infinite EMC. All that was done within 4 hours of gameplay starting from scratch. 4 hours? Where you using Somnia? (I do personally consider that cheating, but to each their own!) Was literally the first thing you built an automated darkroom and/or blazerod macerator? You have no one to blame but yourself for advancing too quickly. It is entirely possible to play EE without being tempted to make that kind of stuff. Quote
Seanbeag Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 4 hours? Where you using Somnia? (I do personally consider that cheating, but to each their own!) Was literally the first thing you built an automated darkroom and/or blazerod macerator? You have no one to blame but yourself for advancing too quickly. It is entirely possible to play EE without being temped to make that kind of stuff. With the divining rod you can have a load of diamonds in no time. convert that into a condenser and collector then go mining som more. Maybe set up a quarry. Condense everything you have to make more collectors. You can have a full collector flower in an hour. Quote
Azeryn Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 With the divining rod you can have a load of diamonds in no time. convert that into a condenser and collector then go mining som more. Maybe set up a quarry. Condense everything you have to make more collectors. You can have a full collector flower in an hour. Pretty much this. Diving rods are amazing when starting out. Find a ravine, jump on down, mine crap, build divining rod, upgrade rod as you go, have a stack of diamonds and lots of other good stuff in 20 mins. Quote
RutibexRut Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Indeed you can! You can also beat Myst in like 30 seconds but that is missing the entire point! I don't power my way to EMC godhood the second I am physically able; I use EE sparingly to make the other mods more fun and advance quicker. Quote
Azeryn Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Indeed you can! You can also beat Myst in like 30 seconds but that is missing the entire point! I don't power my way to EMC godhood the second I am physically able; I use EE sparingly to make the other mods more fun and advance quicker. There. RIGHT HERE. Stop. No more posting for you after this. I use EE sparingly to make the other mods more fun and advance quicker. And this is exactly what EE3 will accomplish. You admit yourself you don't use the OP-ness of EE2, just little bit of it. For you, you wont notice a difference in the speed of the game from EE2 to EE3 once EE3 is finished. /end thread Quote
RutibexRut Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 There. RIGHT HERE. Stop. No more posting for you after this. And this is exactly what EE3 will accomplish. You admit yourself you don't use the OP-ness of EE2, just little bit of it. For you, you wont notice a difference in the speed of the game from EE2 to EE3 once EE3 is finished. /end thread If that's true than indeed I do not have anything else to say! Quote
SemiPr0 Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Uh why is this conversation even still being had. Xeno only gave Pahimar permission to maintain EE2....end of story, no other mod dev has permissions to maintain EE2 other than Pahimar. Pahimar has decided to rewrite EE from the ground up in EE3....end of story. Theres nothing anyone here on this forum can do about it. So all the posturing and postulating and hyperbole is simply wasting internet bandwidth. If you want EE2, I suggest you go write your own original reproduction of it, then present it to the Tekkit team with permissions to include it in the pack, its the only way its going to happen, if it was to happen at all. Quote
theprolo Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 The conversation ended. Stop opening it again. It's ended on a good note, so let's keep it that way. We've already established that stuff... Quote
Teraku Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Indeed you can! You can also beat Myst in like 30 seconds but that is missing the entire point! I'd crown you as "Lord of Mystcraft" if you were able to get ALL symbols in your notebook within even 5 minutes. Besides, a world generation tool of sorts and EE2 aren't very comparable. Quote
Valkon Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 I'd crown you as "Lord of Mystcraft" if you were able to get ALL symbols in your notebook within even 5 minutes. I have the feeling he was referring to the video game Myst rather than Mystcraft. Quote
RutibexRut Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 I have the feeling he was referring to the video game Myst rather than Mystcraft. yeah pretty much Quote
omega21 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 No, the fact that you can start a new world and within an hour have a machine producing infinite EMC is OP. Then within 2-4 hours, having a machine that pumps out Red Matter every second. For free. That's OP. OP but can be fun if you use other tekkit mods to make more complex and enjoy coming up with ways to use all the mods together so you can mass produce and item! Quote
Trevor520599 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I use condensers and collectors to get a good foothold in minecraft, and then I expand out into other mods like Ic2 and redpower. I make complex machines using these mods and increase my minecraft experience as well as others that I meet. Quote
LazDude2012 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Trevor520599: Buddy. Face it, EE2 was dumb. In and of itself, it was fine, but it's balanced for vanilla. Have you noticed that on the Tekkit wiki, literally everything is listed in terms of EMC? It's true! Why is that? Because, for many people, EE is pretty much all they know. They might do a bit of BuildCraft, and a bit of IC2 for ore doubling, but face it. EE2 is OP because there's no loss in the system. EE3, however, as it stands, has the Minium stone. (yay, the old recipes are back!) But, it takes damage, and the shards aren't possible to obtain in an automated fashion, meaning you'll have to put some actual effort into it. I'm so sorry for your loss. :rolleyes: Quote
Trevor520599 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I agree with nerfing the system but I think there has to be some kind of automated way to use emc as it used to be, maybe make it cost more emc, as in making items cost 5% more emc for automate creation, I just really love my factorys and without an automated system its impossible. Quote
Teraku Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I agree with nerfing the system but I think there has to be some kind of automated way to use emc as it used to be, maybe make it cost more emc, as in making items cost 5% more emc for automate creation, I just really love my factorys and without an automated system its impossible. It's not impossible, you'll just have to supply the raw materials manually now and you'll need to restock every now and then. You know, kinda like a factory. Quote
Azeryn Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 You can automate your stuff with EE3, you jsut have to put some effort into it to get shards first and actually build a factory instead of a factory only consisting of condensors. Quote
Mr_Pink Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I agree with nerfing the system but I think there has to be some kind of automated way to use emc as it used to be, maybe make it cost more emc, as in making items cost 5% more emc for automate creation, I just really love my factorys and without an automated system its impossible. You're wrong , it's not impossible , you just have to think more to figure out how to automatically mass produce everything . An example , you want an automated factory that produce every kind of refined ore you can imagine ? Good ! Take some quarrys , or if you want a bit more of complexity a mining frame airship , set an ender chest to bring the material in your factory , put in a lot of macerators , electric furnaces , piping , automated crafting tables and set everything to process the ores , sort them , craft them in they're respective storage blocks and put them in barrels . Or you want a way to mass produce meat ? Then take some cows , a little wheat farm from forestry , some machinery from minefactory ( like the breeder , the cronotyper the grinder ... ) , piping , and set everything to automatically breed , milk , and kill cows with the automatically produced wheat and the minefactory machinery . Here you are and all of that without using even a bunch of EE . Quote
LazDude2012 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Trevor520599: it's *quite* possible, even now! Autocrafting tables with minium stones, and poof, you've got an EE "factory". It'll still take effort from you, as you'll need to replace the stones every now and then, but it's a factory. Quote
dodike Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Has any of you condenser fans considered playing in creative mode? Quote
Teraku Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Has any of you condenser fans considered playing in creative mode? That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. It's not necessarily the condensers which were the problem. Mainly the collectors. Quote
Aurrin Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Has any of you condenser fans considered playing in creative mode? More to the point, creative is very rarely ever an option if you want to play with others. Creative servers are rare, and tekkit creative servers are almost nonexistent. Quote
Ethan Nguyen Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 guys saying condensers are too powerful is like saying not enough items is too powerful if you don't wanna be super op then don't that's fine by me Quote
miniboxer Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 guys saying condensers are too powerful is like saying not enough items is too powerful if you don't wanna be super op then don't that's fine by me This is not even close to a comparison. Don't be a necroing idiot. Quote
xanthan Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 guys saying condensers are too powerful is like saying not enough items is too powerful if you don't wanna be super op then don't that's fine by me Except the second can't be used on a server to totally break any kind of economy without cheating. Quote
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